You mean the thread that is 100% correct that Xb1 hasn't fallen to wii u levels yet for some reason people who are incapable of simple reasoning believe it has?

Any reasonable person knows that's not true.

Yes that very thread. the one that says that all the people who make a living on this site, other sites that do the same and companies whos sole purpose is to track sales of products are all wrong just because it dosent agree with seece.

Tell me oh wise one, how many wii us are in Canada? Mexico? Puerto Rico? Brazil? South Africa? India? Spain? Romania? Iceland? Greenland? Ireland? Russia? Oh, you have no information on any of those? You must be talking out of your ass then. Fact is, we get no information on numbers except for the major players. That leaves ALOT of room for error

Are you really asking me that, but not applying it to yours or seece's arguments? Well this just prooves that its pointless to try and make you see a diferent point of view. Do you really think his estimate is better and is not applicable to those errors you mentioned? Tell me from where did seece get those numbers? Did he survey the major markets himself? Is seece able to see mistakes that multy billion dollar companies cant? If so they should hire him right now. 

Im not the one making assuptions here, just denying others wich is much easy. Seece has no way to get that information as well and the number he uses that are available are the same numbers ioi uses to update the site. So there really is no reason I should take his word over the sites word now, is it? Its fine if you do, but be ready for critizisim when you go agaist the most trusted information.

No offense but why would a prominent member of this site like Seece take a perma bet with someone like you?

Anyway Xbox will easily outsell the Wii U for the rest of the year (Starting sometime in September) 

You mean just like your 'why do people believe X1 will drop to WiiU lvl sales' from march?

At least he calls it prediction, and doesn't act like its a fact.

I've said it from the beginning, even when Wii U's sales were abysmal with no competition back in early 2013; I don't see a scenario in which the Xbone edges out the Wii U. And if it does, it will be because Nintendo cuts the lifespan short to 4 years or something, and third parties keep riding the Xbone (heheh) for 8 years like they have the 360. Difference is, 360 has been a much bigger success thus far and I don't see Xbone being nearly as appealing for these third parties going forward. Moreso than last gen, PS4 is canibalising the Xbox market, and this time, Sony's machine is much more competitively priced, AND did not release a year later. 

Europe (minus the UK) is not big on MS, and they are still non existant in Japan.  They are really only relevent in the US market, and even there their marketshare is shrinking in a shrinking market. Nintendo has many more big guns, and more importantly, EXSLUSIVE guns. While Nintendo has sort of regressed back to the weird quirky Japanese style Gamecube type games that don't quite have the Wii-type sales appeal, these franchises are still bigger than many MS games. The big Xbone titles that DO exist, you can also find on PS4.

I think Wii U will edge out the Xbone by a few million units. It'll be Gamecube vs Xbox again, except the roles will be reversed. 

Xbox will.take second eventually but not this holiday so your the one whos going to look silly

You know what?  I think that the Wii U is actually going to outsell the XBox One this holiday.  

We shall see though.  We shall see.