Good, the best series won. And for anyone who knocks on the series because of the second game here's a link to help you out.

http://m.wikihow.com/Get-Good-at-Video-Games-with-Training

Huzzah for Jak and Daxter!!

I remember falling in love with the series in Jak II because of it's open-worldliness.

Except Jak II is hard for all the wrong reasons which creates frustration. I shouldn't die because of poor level design or unresponsive controls. The lack of checkpoints makes it very frustrating to die because of a crappy camera angle or a very hard task at the end of the level. It's also a cheap way to further lengthen the game. And besides Jak II is also a step down from the first game on pretty much everything anyway. I'm super surprised this game got a pass at the time it came out. Most people who play the game today see the flaws that were overlooked at the time perhaps because the game had a great presentation and was open-world.

I can find countless threads on vgchartz and neogaf discussing the issues:

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=164221

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=60828

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=508178

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=748550

I'm pretty sure even the developers retrospectively admitted that they made it too hard. Doesn't change the fact that it's a good game. For me it felt really good beating it for the first time since it actually challenged me. Out of all the games Jak 2 is hands down my favorite not only because of the challenge but also because the gameplay was imo the best in the series.

Hell my little sister who usually only plays Zelda and Pokémon beat all 3 games with relative ease and considers Jak 2 to be the best. So while some people had problems when they played many others had a blast.

@bolded Can you give me some examples?  Because other than the Daxter spider chase sequence the level design was great and I've never encountered unresponsive controls.

I demand a recount.

Go Jak and Daxter! You were always better than that idiot, Crash!

I do love LBP, but... I see those games more like Developer Kits. I mean, the best levels on LBP are the ones made by the community. The single player in LBP is more like an extended demo. In terms of creative levels, strong stories, fun mechanics, and so on, the best ones are the user created levels.  Like Media Molecule said when they promoted LBP2. It's not a  platform game but a platform for games. That being said, it's not fair to compare LBP with other games. 

You've got a pretty good point. The game has not aged very well. But, back in the day, Jak II was pretty amazing. That game was like Mario 64 and GTA III having a baby.  And I'm not deffending Jak II and Jak 3 because I never liked them that much (simply because I never liked sandbox games). 

Yeah, yeah, nowadays they are frustrating in many things: it's difficult to control the vehicles (Jak II), it's boring to go from one part of  the city to another to get missions, and so on. But you can't judge it with nowadays standards. Those games were considered "great."

Fortunately, I had the Ratchet & Clank series to play.  

YaYYYYYYYYY!!
Even though i want Ratchet and Clank to win at the start
Luckily i voted at a good time
Thankyou to my Sony Xpreia Z1 Alarm! Lol

Every chasing scenes and other moments had depth problems that made it super hard to know where you were when jumping. Grinding using the Jet-Board was hell. Aiming with the guns was super inaccurate. It should have had a lock-on mode. And some missions were overall terrible like this one.

I still somewhat liked the game because what it does right it really does it well but I rarely see such glaring flaws in a game. It's poor difficulty design probably makes it all too obvious.

No need to spit over graves now.