PS brand has always been more popular WW than the Xbox brand by alot. Especially outside of US where they were able to fall back on. What does Xbox have to fall back on besides America?

And no one is saying they want xbox one to die, stop lying. They might want it to be in 2nd or even 3rd that doesnt equate death, we are only saying that xbone wont beat PS4 and considering right now it isnt even close they arent wrong. Anything can happen including xone never cathching PS4 come with some actual data to back your claims or just say i wish upon a star that xone will win

If Xbox 360 didn't exist the 30 percent Microsoft had would have been Sony's, thus Playstation 3 would have 60 percent market

share to Wii's 40 percent.

Sony probably would have even more may 70 percent. Almost the same as the Playstation 2 did.

But because of Xbox 360 there was no Playstation domination last gen and I see the same thing happenning again.

Even if this genertion ends with Playstation 4 having a 10 million lead over the Xbox One.

Example: Playstation 4 100 million vs 90 million Xbox One, that is not domination. 

As it currently is Playstation 4 has a 4 or 5 million lead over the Xbox One. Which can shrink in my opinion. 

So much for Sony domination. Sony will never ever again have 75% market share because of Microsoft.

The PS2 alone eats the groceries for the entire Xbox family (in terms of overall sales).

i miss selnor and kowenici? at least they backed up there claims with data and had the good sense to not say anything whne they were proven wrong

fixed it for you

MS didn't dominate in the PS2 era. I would say that Sony won't dominate as much as before but I bet the gap would be nearly 50%

PS3 owners are bored....when PS3 is still getting exclusive games
360 owners aren't bored.....despite getting the same games as PS3, but without any exclusives.

Right.

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XB1 isn't selling because it pulled a Sega Saturn. It messed up the launch, killed all hype with the bad press and people are just getting a PS4. XB1 needs to show people more then it's "as good" as PS4, they need to make it better, much better, and so far they have done exactly the opposite.

Plus a lot of 360 owners (like myself) are annoying at expensive XBLG prices, poor reliability, poor customer service and....are done with Gears of War/Halo/Forza (Forza 5 being crap pushed people away from XB1 even furthur).

People don't Gears of War if it's not developed by EPIC (look at how badly Judgement sold). People don't want Forza now that they feel the franchise is being milked (look at how poorly Forza 5 sold and how little content it had). People still want Halo, but not as much as before and I bet once Destiny releases the hype for Halo will crash.

No one is saying it can't but when we look back at how/why it did there are no correlations. The PS4 came back because of EU and Japan globaly, two things that not only does MSFT not have the capability of doing but the PS4 is already outpacing the ratios of last gen in these areas, and likely will in Japan when the Xbox One is released.

Your entire premise (or lack of premise) is built on comparing US sales (sometimes gloabally in the US) where the PS3 never caught nor sniffed the 360. So you cant point to the worldwide marketshare of the PS3 catching the 360 and extrapolate it to the US marketshare.

Did you forget what you were even arguing here?

3 things lead the 360 to US domination (compared tot he PS3) last gen:

1. Full year headstart

2. Incredible price difference in additionto having a one year start of always being cheaper

3. Online infrastructure/community/friends of friends feeling compelled to play the same system coupled with point 1

Literally NONE of these variables exist this gen. There is no headstart, the prices are now equal and the PS4 is taking point 3 which will only compound MSFT's problem more long term.

You have absolutely nothing in the form of a legitmate, logical argument to make.

As it is currently, Playstation 4 has a 4 or 5 million lead over the Xbox One. Which can grow in my opinion.

Microsoft will never, ever reach global parity, or a lead, in market share because of Sony.

See what I did there? =P The kicker is, we're both likely to end up being right.

I disagree. At least the Kownicki part. Jega doesnt post passive aggressive responses in every single thread. He at least stays in his own thread, even if he is chasing his own tail wih his (lackof)logic.