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Zanten on 26 August 2014
Jega said:
Zanten said:
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Well, actually, the Xbox 360 was what built the major brand; the original Xbox was a financial flop, losing the company billions, and achieved about twenty four million units by the end of its generation, which was a fifth of its direct competitor the PS2, and a quarter of Sony's first-effort with the original Playstation. Heck, it only outsold the Gamecube by a couple of million, and part of the reason they got such an early start on the next gen was they wanted to move away from the original Xbox platform's money-burning ways as quickly as possible. The only really notable success, from a sales standpoint, the Xbox platform achieved occured after the launch of the Xbox 360, and was helped not only by the fact that they got an early start, but by the fact that their direct competitor basically kneecapped themselves in many, many ways.

Which brings us to a point Jega himself made; the PS2 had a MASSIVE amount of marketshare in its heydey, but it didn't keep the PS3 from getting its butt kicked when the seventh began. Sure, it eventually caught up to the Xbox 360, but if you compare it to its predecessor, the PS2, Sony lost a GREAT deal of territory in the seventh generation, territory it never fully recovered. While the Xbox platform, by contrast, gained a massive windfall due in part to Sony's idiocy; not that Microsoft didn't release a great console, but it helped that the PS3 was ludicrously inadequate in the opening years.

Bottom line, Microsoft did really, really unpopular things before and immediately after the Xbox One's launch. Several of their exclusives at the moment looked primed to go to PC as well, minimizing their effect at actually moving consoles. When it comes to multiplatform performance, the best they seem to get is 'Equal To The PS4,' and it hasn't even been a consistent thing. In terms of price, at the moment it is, at best, 'Equal To The PS4.' Launch time, at best, 'Equal To The PS4,' with a ten month disadvantage in secondary markets that Sony has a brand advantage in anyway. Last gen performance, at best, 'Equal To The PS3,' even with all the advantages they enjoyed last gen.

If Sony's mistakes last gen cost them marketshare, I'm failing to see why the assumption is that the Xbox platform will be completely unaffected by their mistakes. o.O

Wow another good post. Even better than the last one you posted.

This man deserves applause.


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poklane on 26 August 2014

Few small things OP has forgotten:

  1. Call of Duty, Halo and Gears of War all have a very similar target group. Call of Duty is also on PS4 and PC and more.
  2. A lot of players from this target group already have the XB1 because they know these franchises are coming and because of Titanfall.
  3. PlayStation 4 in fact also has exclusives. LittleBigPlanet 3, Uncharted 4, Bloodborne, Driveclub, Ratchet & Clank and more existing IPs and new IPs yet to be announced, such as Guerrilla Games' and Media Molecule's.
  4. Microsoft bought the Gears of War IP early 2014. So lets say development started early 2014, the earliest you'll see a new Gears of War is late 2016 if you're lucky.
  5. Rise of the Tomb Raider is confirmed timed exclusive, and thus wont push that much.
  6. PS4 has momentum going which you can see every week with the weekly sales updates.
  7. Have you forgotten the release of Titanfall and the Kinect getting dropped? Lots of people were 100% sure XB1 would beat the PS4 in those months, but it didn't happen in any of 2 months, even tho Sony had nothing mayor releasing those months.

So, nope, not gonna happen. Sure, Xbox One might win a month around the holidays or another random month, but XB1 overtaking PS4 worldwide? No chance in hell.



LivingMetal on 26 August 2014
Jega said:
WebMasterFlex said:
Jega said:
WebMasterFlex said:
EricFabian said:

more than 100k is right behind? No. Even if was the case, we are talking about vgchartz pre-orders numbers. So no again

Wait... so this dude is using vgchartz games preorder in US to explain that Xbone will dominate WW ?

Using something more "concret", take Amazon USA : http://www.amazon.com/best-sellers-video-games/zgbs/videogames/ref=sv_vg_12#1

PS4 # 5 and # 8 while Xbone being at # 25

Better not to talk about Rest Of The World sales.

I wonder how blind some people can be somethimes.

 

I am talking about Game pre-orders.

And destiny on Xbox One is tracking ahead at the moment.

I'm talking pre-order because someone else bought up pre-order numbers.

At this point, just pray that Xbone catch up one day in US only. When we see the market and the domination of PS4, talking about winning WW..... seriously...

Yes I am serious. It is unbelievable how people are assuming that the Playstation 4 has already won, when it has not even been a year

since both consoles have been on the market, the Xbox One has yet to launch in many territories the Playstation 4 has been in for

months and the Xbox One has been 400 dollars for only 2 months.

And you're assuming the Xbox One will outsell the PS4... Worldwide... Because of America... with one-sided logic.



LivingMetal on 26 August 2014
Jega said:
BeElite said:
Jega said:

 

The Next thing to consider is that the rise of the tomb raider might end up looking very realistic.

From the tech I hear they are putting into that game.

A very realistic looking game could send the franchise to unprecedented levels of sales.

And then market the heck out of it. It could be something really big,

Like I said time will tell.


Maybe you should consider everything you post not only works for the other side to, it barely constitutes as an argument.  

Maybe Uncharted4 will be uber super ultra realstic so much people will mistake it for Camrons avatar 2 and sale 100m units and gross billions.

only time will tell.

Well Phil Spencer said this was there way of competing against uncharted 4 so time will tell which on looks more realistic.

Uncharted 4 will indeed be a looker.

But which game will look more realistic.

Time will tell.


And so far, time had told us that the PS4 has out sold the competition.  Yes, time just told us that.  Really.



bouboumorveu on 26 August 2014

same topic as TheDrill, no future.



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LivingMetal on 26 August 2014
Jega said:
BeElite said:
Jega said:

I just had a thought on that would the new uncharted game have the same hype behind it if it was a multiplatform title.

I don't think so. It would sell more units than if it was just on PS4, but the hype would not be the same.

Same for Bloodbourne, I don't think some people would be talking about that game so much if it was also coming to the Xbox One.

So with Microsoft help. I think CD thinks the game will get more hype behind it as an exclusive and make tomb raider even more 

popular.  If the last TR game sold like 5 million across multiple platforms. Maybe CD thinks if marketed well it could sell maybe 5 million

as a Xbox exclusive game. Notice it is being released on Xbox One and Xbox 360. So now imagine it sells 7million or 8 million on those

consoles alone. And then later on release it for PS4 and PC. It would sell even more copies.

Time will tell if that strategy will work.


Does GTA lack hype casue its multi no great games is great games.  Your just using foolish fanboyism to argue a pointless point.

CD has shit all to say in the matter, SE calls the shots.  SE got MS to pay then enough top compensate for the obviously lower sales TR will get by being TIMED exclusve worth it to them.  MS casue they lack 1st party went out and payed for a TIMED exclusve in an attempt to better compete with sony.  

7/8m on 360/X1 LOL those are some seriouly big dreams.  

If GTA 6 is anounced as a PS4 exclusive. Many people will Hype it to death just because it is only on the PS4.


Not me.



jnemesh on 26 August 2014

Microsoft should change their marketing tagline at this point...something like "Microsoft: Hope springs eternal!"



Alby_da_Wolf on 26 August 2014

We are bad people because we don't emit good vibes to help XBOne. You know, games don't sell consoles, vibes do. And good vibes must be sent to XBOne and bad ones to PS4, because MS is saint and Sony is eeevilllllll!
And don't get me started on how evil are PC gamers like me!



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Jega on 26 August 2014
Alby_da_Wolf said:
We are bad people because we don't emit good vibes to help XBOne. You know, games don't sell consoles, vibes do. And good vibes must be sent to XBOne and bad ones to PS4, because MS is saint and Sony is eeevilllllll!
And don't get me started on how evil are PC gamers like me!

No need for bad vibes to any console. It isn't necessary. I wish both the PS4 and Xbox One tremendous success. 

100 million sold for both the PS4 and Xbox One.



LivingMetal on 26 August 2014
Jega said:
Alby_da_Wolf said:
We are bad people because we don't emit good vibes to help XBOne. You know, games don't sell consoles, vibes do. And good vibes must be sent to XBOne and bad ones to PS4, because MS is saint and Sony is eeevilllllll!
And don't get me started on how evil are PC gamers like me!

No need for bad vibes to any console. It isn't necessary. I wish both the PS4 and Xbox One tremendous success. 

100 million sold for both the PS4 and Xbox One.