The Neogaf thread on this topic was downright embarrassing.

Anyone who even questioned the girls morality was made a mockery of / banned.

I have no idea what happen in her life or if she slep with a Kotaku editor thinking it may help her in the industry. She could be innocent of that but it is still a topic worth discussing and she may have been guilty who knows.

Regardless the fake ass non stop bashing of anyone who disagrees / questions someones morality is disturbing. We are slowly creating an environment where people are allowed to do whatever they want even if its fucked up and no one is allowed to question it.

I have no comment on the situation with this woman but the way its been handled / moderated on the Internet is disgusting.

Maybe because that requires a brain to understand these things, these people defend women(even where there is nothing to defend but it's a woman so i need to protect her) because it's cool, but if they would really care about equality no matter the gender or the origins , they would care from both side and not only from the side they are attracted by/the society told them to be. It's funny because these men will stay blind in front of sexism when it's about their own gender because it's not as cool.

Did you just say that? What the heck man....

He states he has been emotionally and mentally abused by her, citing her infidelity as one of the causes.

One of those instances of infidelity is confirmed indirectly by the one accused, and the girlfriend of another of the accused basically confirms the second count of infidelity in zoe's own response to the now-ex girlfriend of the guy she was accused of sleeping with.

So what we have here is 2 confirmed instances of infidelity out of 5.

Thus we have two confirmable instances where his claims of abuse are real - i'd say that pretty much solidifies his claims while taking that original benefit of doubt she was by default granted, and it no longer becomes an issue of if she should be doubted or not, and becomes an issue of a guy who has been abused, being ignored purely based on his gender, by people like you, who simply label him as "jealous, angry ex boyfriend".

And that, ladies and gentlemen, is the problem with the modern day approach to sexism.

But thats not true...

There is still plenty of evidence that she has done something unethical, and there is evidence that the three men may have done something unethical. As I said in my last comment (which you obviously didn't read), the Kotaku guy also worked for RPS, and he did put out an article positively mentioning this game, so while Kotaku is not at fault (I don't think anyone said they were), there are still open accusations to that man and the two other industry figures. 

We don't have all the facts so we cannot indefinitely prove anything or disprove anything, and there are plenty of valid reasons to continue this discussion. You are the only one who is spurring conversation that serves no purpose. 

I never had sex with a feminist before, I'd do her for the greater manhood

Thread closed soon when VGchartz receive a "call"

There is no equivalence between someone sleeping their way to get ahead and someone making sexist and offensive statements. This thread is creating false equivalency which is mischevious and wrong.

I don't think what Zoe Quinn did was right or a reasonable tactic. In fact any inducement, sexual or otherwise, to obtain favourable write ups in the press is a corrupt practice. The fact it was sex in this case is actually irrelevant, all it does is give some people to show some sort of false moral outrage. If you want to compare this to something legit, then how about the various corrupt practices that keep being alleged about game reviews being bought and paid for by less salacious means? That's the legit comparison, and those non-sexual inducements get less serious press time than this one did. So in fact there's an argument to make that blowing this up is sexist, because other ways of buying off the gaming press are, if not accepted, quietly tolerated. But shock horror as soon as it is someone with little material means using sex instead of money, or free swag suddenly it's and absolute outrage. It's Ok if men do manly things to get themselves ahead, but woe betide a woman if she tries to play that corrupt game using the cards she's been dealt.

What happened to someone who made derogatory statements about 50% of the world's population is completely irrelevant.

Clean up the major corruption in the gaming press before you go vilifying this woman for a very minor incident in the grand scheme of things.

I hate the political correctness when it comes to feminism and racism in the industry.

But... she can sleep with whoever the fuck she wants. I hate mixing private affairs with public ones.

If it were a guy I'd say the same thing.

but you see there is a massive difference between what happened here and the claims of gaming press being bought off

and the difference is evidence and associated identified people

in terms of the press being bought off what gaming site/blog/show etc was bought off? who paid money? who took money? what was the subsequent media about the topic?

to my knowledge evidence like this is lacking with the alleged cases of gaming press being bought off whereas in this situation we actually do have more evidence to focus on

its also worthwhile to keep in mind that some of the claims of press being bought off seems to stem from disagreements between consumers and producers with regards to ratings on games which is expected since its subjective

so we have a situation where lets say for example a reviewer genuinely likes the newest CoD but a gamer who hates the whole series says "oh he's bought off because CoD is shit"