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At first I had my doubts...
But now I think this has a good chance of surpassing its predecessor and actually having more posts then "Xbox One will outsell PS4 WW" aka Globally in the US if not 70-80%



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wary-wallaroo said:

If you for one second think VGC is more accurate then, just wow.

I never said this. I said I don't know why people believe the word of Sony to be 100% true.

So you guys are HONESTLY telling me your first inclination as an auditor is to just believe everything the company tells you? Because if that is what you put down in your audit workpapers, I can tell you now, the PCAOB is going to find significant deficiencies in your audit standards, and you will likely be sued (and lose) for every single audit you signed off on that then is deemed to have material mistatements.



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Baalzamon said:
wary-wallaroo said:

If you for one second think VGC is more accurate then, just wow.

I never said this. I said I don't know why people believe the word of Sony to be 100% true.

So you guys are HONESTLY telling me your first inclination as an auditor is to just believe everything the company tells you? Because if that is what you put down in your audit workpapers, I can tell you now, the PCAOB is going to find significant deficiencies in your audit standards, and you will likely be sued (and lose) for every single audit you signed off on that then is deemed to have material mistatements.

Just so ya know avoiding me only proves you are lying..



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Nicklesbe said:

It's not tho. Unless you want to give me your real name, your jobs name and either give me their number, no wait I'll just look it up and call to verify. I have really hard time believing a 22 year old has a Master of Science in Accounting or Master of Business Administration. Ya know which would be a requirement for employment at any of the top 50 Auditing firms in the US.

You just made up...yet another fact. Holy crap.

An associate at an accounting firm has never, and will never be required to have a masters degree. They aren't even required to have a CPA when hired, it is just pushed for you to finish it.



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Whats even more ironic is that very few auditors do get a masters degree, even up to the partner level. It is largely considered unnecessary (it is seen as a little more important on the tax side of things).



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Baalzamon said:
Nicklesbe said:

It's not tho. Unless you want to give me your real name, your jobs name and either give me their number, no wait I'll just look it up and call to verify. I have really hard time believing a 22 year old has a Master of Science in Accounting or Master of Business Administration. Ya know which would be a requirement for employment at any of the top 50 Auditing firms in the US.

You just made up...yet another fact. Holy crap.

An associate at an accounting firm has never, and will never be required to have a masters degree. They aren't even required to have a CPA when hired, it is just pushed for you to finish it.

The only one making up shit here is you. Damn you really are on track to becoming the next TheDrill. Now either give your name and place of business so it can be verified or stop while you are behind.



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Baalzamon said:
wary-wallaroo said:

If you for one second think VGC is more accurate then, just wow.

I never said this. I said I don't know why people believe the word of Sony to be 100% true.

So you guys are HONESTLY telling me your first inclination as an auditor is to just believe everything the company tells you? Because if that is what you put down in your audit workpapers, I can tell you now, the PCAOB is going to find significant deficiencies in your audit standards, and you will likely be sued (and lose) for every single audit you signed off on that then is deemed to have material mistatements.

 

Bro, of course it's not 100% accurate but I will tell you this, Sony's tracking is infinitely more accurate than VGC. To debate otherwise is absurd. Sony and other manufacturers pay very, very good money to get the bwst information possible. So yes, if they said they're at iver 10 million, they're very likely as sure as possible about it. VGC not updating to reflect that is an embarrassment



Nicklesbe said:

The only one making up shit here is you. Damn you really are on track to becoming the next TheDrill. Now either give your name and place of business so it can be verified or stop while you are behind.

First off, I'm not giving my name on a forum. My place of business is McGladrey.

Oh, and fyi, here's a link for a current Audit Manager opening on the MWD team: http://jobs.mcgladrey.com/job/Minneapolis-Audit-Manager-Manufacturing%2C-Wholesale-&-Distribution-Job-MN-55401/82350700/?from=email&refid=35883845&utm_source=J2WEmail&source=2&eid=315-201417160717-76609694&locale=en_US

As you'll see, even a manager only requires a Bachelors degree.

So please, stop making up facts.



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About finances not close to the penny... Where I work all the expenses must be proved by a fiscal document (purchase order, work order, expense reporter) and show the exact amount to be processed. And altough in the end all the numbers aren't exact to the sent, to allow a bogus number in your book is a crime... so please stop with your better than all atitude.



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Baalzamon said:
So logic says that Sony's information is 100% accurate? I'd love to know the logic behind that, when one can easily find instances of companies lying about things exactly like this in the past.

So logic says that Sony doesn't use VgChartz for their own weekly data? Logic tells me, having seen a lot in the business world, that many businesses purchase information from outside companies because those companies are better at compiling the information than they would be. In this situation, Sony is in the business of selling consoles. This does not necessarily imply they have the best weekly console sales estimator around. Using a little logic would clearly tell you that.

I'm sure logic is also what was used when I was told as a matter of fact that financial statements are exact to the cent.

Lets just say this. If VGC were a leader in this industry they wouldnt be adjusting their numbers based on the big boys. Other trackers would adjust to VGC.

Thats just a fact, and until you accept it, like most of us have, you will never enjoy this website for what it is. A general weekly barometer loosely resembling the overal market.

This website doesnt make its money based on subscriptions or its tracking service, its from ads. That is why i have to mute my speakers everytime i visit and the website is cluttered as all hell. 

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See those websites? See this website? I count 5 banner ads on just the main page of VGC. A 20 second ad prior to being able to enter the main website. Banner ads throughout the forum. End of discussion. Most of us know it, most of us accept it. It is not to take away from the fun this place brings. But this argument that people are having is ridiculous. This place is not a defacto tracker, it is a videogame hub/blog/forum.