and there's the other one.  Other fans hate on other systems just as much

I dont get it.

People find tlou:r unecessary, people exist who dont like indies, people exist who dont like ps now, etc. Why are these opinions inherently bad just because they disagree with the PS4=god sentinent?

And even if all this "flak" was there and a problem, it is not near the hate of the others.

It's not like it's rare for smartphones or tablets, which clearly inspired the gamepad, to have NFC technology

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NFC-enabled_mobile_devices

Them having that in there does not mean they had a set plan for it, much less that they planned to get those figures out, those are an obvious product of Skylanders success.

Good counterpoint. Never would have thought of anything like that. You're right. Everyone takes ideas from everyone else and that's just business.

This.

It's like Fox News in here. All this victimizing.

1. Where did I say that you said it? What you said is that if it's so important to them, they should moneyhat it. I listed games that are all important to Sony. They have good reason to moneyhat every single one of them, but obviously they can't and it's a terrible practise (the way I see it).So I disagree with the notion that if they really want a third party game on their console, they should moneyhatt.

2. Nope, I was very specific. I said it found its success on ps consoles. Tomb Raider, just like Tekken was huge on ps consoles. The sales dicrepancy between ps and the rest of the consoles on which it was released is too massive to ignore. If you ask the average gamer "which console was Tomb Raider/Tekken" released on? They'll say playstation. Same with Spyro and Crash despite them having been released on many other consoles. Hence Spyro and Crash being the most requested characters for PS All Stars Battle Royal out of all the third and first party characters that appeared on ps consoles.

3. Never said they were entitled to it. I said they would have every reason to expect it to be released on their platform. It always has (that's 17 years you can't possibly ignore) and the ps4 is selling well enough to justify the game's release on it. Had it been doing as badly as the vita is, they'd have every reason to doubt that it will.

Underlined: Debatable. Companies make bad decsions all the time. It remains to be seen if it was what's best for them.

If fable was owned by Molyneux and he was moneyhatted by Sony to release it as a timed exclusive on ps4, I'd hate it even though I'm a huge fan of Fable (and not an xb1 owner any time soon). I would find it disrespectul to the MS fans who want to play it and who made it the franchise that it is today. This is not an "MS is bad no matter what, Sony is God cuz Sony" case. I wouldn't have liked it if the roles were reversed.

You should check out the latest poll I did today.  It clearly indicates that this site has WAY more PS fans.  It's only a couple of hours old.

Out of curiosity, do you think one thread negates every other thread? Becasue in every single other poll I've seen, Ninty wins easily. Whether it's top 100 games, most anticipated games, who won e3 and of course, what's your favourtie console/console you're gaming the most on at the moment. Maybe things have changed. But I don't think a you can draw this conclusion based on a single poll. For all we know, Ninty fans could be more active in September.

This here Intrinsic is a perfect example of why this thread is just completely off. Comments like this (which I see every day) are treated as normal, commonplace and perfectly fine.

Literally no-one said anything about this despite the tone, insult and implying everyone who doesn't like Sony is just jealous and pathetic. And I wont even touch on that last sentence except to say Ninty and Xbox fans would have been massacred for saying that. Meanwhile there's a 3 page conversation going on from a guy who compared Smash Bros to All Stars.

Hell, YOU didnt say anything about it despite it being a direct reply to your comment

polls are not accurate here. One person can litterally vote dozens of times. So it could have a high Sony base or it could be a few sony fans voting multiple times.