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Raziel123 on 11 August 2014

Wind waker HD is 30fps

And until they're out i wouldn't include Bayonetta 2 and SSB4
People were saying the same thing about MK8 and look how that turned out.

MH3 has very big frame drops, almost down to 30 at times

Only leaves Rayman Legends really.



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Frogger on 11 August 2014
awesomeabe1998 said:
RushJet1 said:

WWHD is 30 FPS.


There is a good amount of sites reporting that it is 60fps.


Those sites are all wrong.



Devil_Survivor on 11 August 2014
awesomeabe1998 said:
the_dengle said:

I don't think that was ever true. Maybe for a month between the release of WWHD and the XBO/PS4 launch.

SSB4 hasn't released yet. Neither has Bayonetta 2. People need to stop doing this.


I partially agree. People also praised the other two consoles for having 1080p 60fps games that werent released yet as well. Though lets face it the XB1 is struggling to get some 1080p 60fps games.


Yeah true, there was a guy today made a PS4 thread where he was claiming the PS4 had the most 1080p60 fps games and some of those won't be out until 2015 sometime.



 

jlmurph2 on 11 August 2014
globalisateur said:
jlmurph2 said:
globalisateur said:


Halo 1 3 and 4 are confirmed 1080p 60fps. You haven't seen them because they are not the focus of the collection. Halo 2 is.

Diablo 3 is confirmed 1080p 60fps with a patch.



Titanfall is also a "healthy 60fps shooter" (by the words of Eurogamer) but in reality runs with constant screen tearing at ~40~45fps  with ~30fps drops when Titans are out (the core of the game), even single digits fps allegedely but DF performance video suddenly stopped showing under 20fps levels, just starting for this game...) .

Sniper Elite 2 on XB1 is also labelled 1080p60fps game and has constant screen tearing.

If we follow this logic Infamous SS uncapped is also a true 1080p 60fps game. 

 

But those games are in fact 30fps games just uncapped, at least Infamous hasn't go any screen tearing (triple buffering) and can be 30fps capped.

 

They are gonna label those Halo games 1080p60fps, no doubt for marketing purposes, but at what cost? They already announced that Halo 2 is sub-1080p, they even showed us a ~900p Halo 2 game with empty bland environments so that's not promising for the Halo 3 and 4 at 1080p60fps (solid framerate without screen tearing) in my book.

I am in fact a true Halo fan, and I did buy the original Xbox with Halo CE (and the X360 with Gears of war BTW). And I am so angry at Microsoft for having released this esram bottlenecked, screen tearing filled console.

A next gen console at this price that can't even do triple buffering on any 1080p game? What were they thinking? Halo collection with constant screen tearing, a la Titanfall? because if they really follow this 1080p60fps marketing target, that's what we'll get. I mean, show me a 1080p 60fps first person shooter (with ~open environments) game without constant screen tearing on XB1 (not counting dynamic resolution like Wolf which isn't anymore a true 1080p game).


Halo 2 is not confirmed anything yet because its running 2 games on top of each other for instant switching. The rest are 360 games that were simply upgraded to 1080p 60fps Halo 2 remastered's possible 900p has nothing to do with the other 3 games. What makes you think 3 360 games are going to have screen tearing?



Locknuts on 11 August 2014

It never did. People just say that because the games are fun and you can't have fun at less than 1080p.



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Devil_Survivor on 11 August 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
If we are including unreleased games then the PS4 and Xbox One win very easily.


Yeah but, we have no idea if those games are turly 1080p60 fps until they come out because Sony and Mircosoft have said that before about games and when they come out they are not and people rage. So maybe that's why they don't count until they release. 



 

DonFerrari on 11 August 2014
awesomeabe1998 said:
DonFerrari said:
jlmurph2 said:

Well it seems like your thread was inaccurate to begin with since Wii U only has 1 1080p 60fps retail game.

Or his reply saying WiiU isn't much weaker...

WiiU @300 Gflops

X1 @ 1200 Gflops

Ps4 @ 1800 Gflops

The difference between ps4 and x1 is already big enough to make some noticeable diffs in multiplats that really push graphics and 2nd batch of exclusives will show that more. But all those diffs are minimal for most gamers and won't damper x1 experience.

But WiiU is in another ballpark. No game that try to put minimum advanced game on multiplats will look closely matched on WiiU and x1. Not that would be a problem, ps360 were already gorgeous and WiiU being 2-3x stronger will have wonderfull games.

But judging pixels and framerates is silly, or would you say if someone rendered pong @1080p60fps on genesis hw (we know it wouldn't output but this is merely hipothetical) then Genesis wouldn't be much weaker than WiiU??


It is not as weak as the Wii was compared to PS360. People get offended over a piece of plastic. MK8 looks beautiful even when put aside a PS4 game. So does LoZ. All these games look great without a doubt. When I look at a platformer like SM3DW and compare it to Knack visually, I feel like SM3DW looks slightly more impressive. Just my opinion.

No ofense taken, I like Ninty. And I agree WiiU is closer to Ps4/X1 than Wii was to Ps360 since at least it can output in the same res and have more modern hw. I just disagreed with the not much weaker (less weaker than Wii is different than not much weaker). And I pretty much said I'm sure WiiU will have games great graphics. Regarding Knack I won't comment since I didn't play and is your opinion on which look greater not on technical aspects (but the screens I saw were gorgeous).



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LazerGuy on 11 August 2014

You have missed out loads of games like MK8 and SM3DW. Just sayin'.



Raziel123 on 11 August 2014
Devil_Survivor said:
Ka-pi96 said:
If we are including unreleased games then the PS4 and Xbox One win very easily.


Yeah but, we have no idea if those games are turly 1080p60 fps until they come out because Sony and Mircosoft have said that before about games and when they come out they are not and people rage. So maybe that's why they don't count until they release. 


Even with only already-released games the PS4 is already ahead.

 

LazerGuy those games aren't 1080p 60fps



Devil_Survivor on 11 August 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
Devil_Survivor said:
Ka-pi96 said:
If we are including unreleased games then the PS4 and Xbox One win very easily.


Yeah but, we have no idea if those games are turly 1080p60 fps until they come out because Sony and Mircosoft have said that before about games and when they come out they are not and people rage. So maybe that's why they don't count until they release. 

Only said that because the op included unreleased games for Wii U. Have to include PS4 and Xbox One's unreleased games as well if it's doing that.


That's fair. Well I guess the difference is Nintendo doesn't have a history of burning thier fans with promises of 1080p60fps. Its not just Sony or MS that do that its in fact a lot of developers that have done it.