dukerx2 said: The West needs to stop dicking around and get involved, this is becoming genocide. Should have steped in in Syria years ago and maybe some of this could have been avoided....maybe not.

i FULLY agree and we were almost there until putin stepped in

fighter said: dukerx2 said: The West needs to stop dicking around and get involved, this is becoming genocide. Should have steped in in Syria years ago and maybe some of this could have been avoided....maybe not. i FULLY agree and we were almost there until putin stepped in

You've already stepped in Libya and see how that's turned out. Yes, we absolutely need yet another trouble maker over there, incapable of solving its own problems. Sure. My suggestion, give it to Iran and Syria to resolve, and yes I'm aware that's unrealistic suggestion due to gazillion of puny political interests west have there that's ruling out any possibility of sensible cooperation with Iran and Syria.

mai said: fighter said: dukerx2 said: The West needs to stop dicking around and get involved, this is becoming genocide. Should have steped in in Syria years ago and maybe some of this could have been avoided....maybe not. i FULLY agree and we were almost there until putin stepped in You've already stepped in Libya and see how that's turned out. Yes, we absolutely need yet another trouble maker over there, incapable of solving its own problems. Sure. My suggestion, give it to Iran and Syria to resolve, and yes I'm aware that's unrealistic suggestion due to gazillion of puny political interests west have there that's ruling out any possibility of sensible cooperation with Iran and Syria.

again, a superficial opinion

even a superficial comparison beats your superficial opinion : Lybia is better off than Syria

so  a superficial conclusion would be that even a bad NATO intervention with no-follow-up is better than putins' "contribution"

fighter said: again, a superficial opinion even a superficial comparison beats your superficial opinion : Lybia is better off than Syria so  a superficial conclusion would be that even a bad NATO intervention with no-follow-up is better than putins' "contribution"

And you're superficial person. Libya was better without any intervention at all and staged rebellion paid on Saudis money. You, as Ukrainian patriot, should know better, be consistent. Now, go chase jundullahs in Maghrib. Nice work :D

Keep the personal attacks out of here or the thread will get locked.

swbf2lord said: osed125 said: Serious_frusting said: Religion is the scourge of the earth. 90% of the time it causes suffering. It might sound bad but if people stopped preying for each other as much and actually helped all of these countries would not be in such a mess. Also these countries need to help themselves instead of screaming for help from more powerful nations then screaming bullies afterwards. Harsh but true. Prayers don't help people, actions do. But the prayers can galvanize us into action, with the (at times) unseen hand of God, moving people to do things outside of what they find comfortable. I'll continue to pray for those in Iraq, and the whole of the Middle East. It's a very unstable region, and only God can change their hearts now.   What Serious_frusting said is in no way true. Ludicrous, and in a way, sad, but not true.

I'm not saying this as an anti religion comment, albeit I'm not religious myself, but you can simply not deny that religion has had many negative implications on human history, as well as positive implications. Saying anything else is straight up wrong. Now for the comment you replied to, I agree with him. If you pray you want to help, but besides praying you are not exactly doing anything to help. Also why is Serious_frustings point of view sad?

mai said: fighter said: again, a superficial opinion even a superficial comparison beats your superficial opinion : Lybia is better off than Syria so  a superficial conclusion would be that even a bad NATO intervention with no-follow-up is better than putins' "contribution" And you're superficial person. Libya was better without any intervention at all and staged rebellion paid on Saudis money. You, as Ukrainian patriot, should know better, be consistent. Now, go chase jundullahs in Maghrib. Nice work :D

Have to agree with this. Libya has huge problems right now. The main airport was attacked and many planes (some brand new) were damaged. These sorts of things weren't happening even with Gadafi in charge. Gadafi may have been a dictator, but at least conditions in his country were improving for the Libyan people. 

There is a difference between rebellion/civil war and genocide. A dictator who commits genocide and keeps 'control' of his nation is not much better than a terrorist group commiting genocide.

Ah sad Times at the Moment

So looks like Britain will help deliver aid and support America's efforts to help people in Iraq. Its annoying that nobody helps until America decides to help. Its like the other countries don't have a brain to make their own decisions...