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I agree that we should get this out of the way quickly, lest the day end in a no-lynch again. The number of chances to out mafia is starting to dwindle.



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shoot: conegamer



I already said previously what I think we should do. I think cone killed trucks, and I want to avenge him. So I say we shoot cone and if ir's found out that cone was telling the truth then I think that tells us that white is mafia so we will have a solid lynch for once.

Shoot: ConeGamer



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We have six more days, so I'm not sure there's any rush. That said, I also get the impression that letting the days go too long has the potential to hurt as much as hinder, seeing as how it's the tail end when things get...frisky.

I'm going to begin on the warranted assumption that Words of Wisdom is running a good and balanced game here.

Of the three options, RCT has had the most suspicious activity, and Smeags' detective work yesterday exposes an inconsistency which I don't expect of WoW. Moreover, RCT's probably the "safest" bet at the moment, seeing as how he claims vanilla and hasn't exactly contributed much. His flip also has an impact on conegamer's alignment, in my opinion: if he flips town, three town kill-preventers (I'm lumping in padib for the time being) seems an acceptable amount, while four (an estimated 35%-45% of the town, depending on the number of scum) beggars belief.

WhiteEagle is somewhat redundant, if nickle is to be believed. He's also been a bit hard to understand (no offense!), though we get there in the end. My gut says "town," but then my gut also said that eating that gas station hotdog was a good idea, so screw my gut: facts mean more in my opinion. That said, his flip would have a direct impact on conegamer's alignment: a townie WhiteEagle isn't going to lie about conegamer sitting at home, while a scum WhiteEagle has cause to do just that. His death is the most likely to lead directly to a scum, one way or the other.

Conegamer is suspicious as all get out. The fact that he claimed doctor so readily and early screams either newbie or scum. His continued survival argues more the latter than the former. As established earlier, a bodyguard/doctor combo would unbalance the game dramatically as well. Plus, if padib is town and RCT is being honest, 4 out of and estimated 9 to 11 players are town kill-preventers. Finally, he says he paid a visit to sparks last night, while WhiteEagle is saying he didn't. Each of the above points can be countered with a "yes, but", however occam's razor would suggest cone isn't who he says he is.

Based on the above, I think the logical order of things should be either rct -> cone or whiteeagle -> cone, at least until we hit a scum. I find RCT more scummy, but whiteeagle will be more direct in uncovering the liar. But as I said, there's plenty of time, so let me mull it over for a bit (because anyone but sparks' opinion carries so much weight in this discussion. ).

I would add though, for sparks' benefit, that I believe you should emulate Smeags on this one, and exercise some caution before pulling the trigger. You can't unring that bell...



Agreed, prof, the shot needs to be decided now, because it's a separate action from the lynch and thus acts like a second lynch, which means we need as much time to discuss the actual lynch as possible. Don't be stupid, give it some actual thought, but this isn't really something we can spend days on. We have two lynches today, but that also effectively halves our discussion time for each. I'd rather spend less time on the shot, because it will provide information that we can immediately discuss that will add to the lynch discussion.

While I'm certainly afraid of shooting the town doctor, Cone's death, if it isn't mafia, would give us,  in my opinion, the best lead we've had all game. If Cone flips town, White Eagle is probably lying scum, as I explained. White Eagle seems like a good bet as well, but if White Eagle flips town, then Cone being lying scum and White Eagle having a role modifier that affects accuracy seem reasonably equally likely. On the one hand, shooting Cone is the better lead, in my opinion, while on the other, shooting White Eagle removes the risk of shooting the town doctor. Either way, one of them is almost certainly scum since their claims contradict, so whichever we chose, if we chose wrong, it just means when we kill the scum we only gain half a day instead of a day.

While it's possible that both are scum, just in case only one is, and in the interest of getting the best result, I'm going to vote to use the day vig item on Cone, because we've been suspecting him for a while now and he's still alive despite claiming doctor day 1. He also has more holes in his arguments throughout the past few days, while with White Eagle, we mostly just have that he wasn't very active, and that he was overly cautious about giving us information. The only hard evidence against him is that Cone's claims contradict his, and there's an innocent explanation for that in the possibility of an inaccuracy modifier. I still think he's suspicious and that him being lying scum is more likely, but weighing the options and the evidence for each, the better case is with Cone right now.

shoot: Cone



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padib said:
WhiteEaglePL said:
Night 1 - I decided to look at Outlaworon - only to find out he was a townie and practically did nothing wrong.

That lead me curious as to why he was lynched so many times...


Night 2 - Inspected Cone Gamer due to his suspicions of my activeness - Did not leave from anywhere.

That is all I am prepared to share.

Cone is a goon.

Vote: Conegamer.

Is that a vote for him to be shot? or do you think he should be lynched? Right now I think it would be most beneficial to get that out of the way. As others have said it opens up more time to discuss the actual lynch.



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outlawauron said:
How are there over 200 posts in less than 6 hours. I won't be able to comment until later tonight. Sorry team.

There an incredible amount of role claiming and actions? Did Smeags just kill RCT?


Thoughts on who to shoot? 



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Nicklesbe said:
outlawauron said:
How are there over 200 posts in less than 6 hours. I won't be able to comment until later tonight. Sorry team.

There an incredible amount of role claiming and actions? Did Smeags just kill RCT?


Thoughts on who to shoot? 

My shoot vote goes to Cone. The whole cleric/doctor faux paus on first day, Wright's suspcision of him, and the contradicting reports. That's about a good of a case as we have against someone, imo. In the possibility we're wrong, then we're immediately able to take down a mafia member. That's a big win regardless.

Shoot: Conegamer



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votes to shoot cone:
padib, hylian, outlaw, nickles, prof

votes to shoot eagle:
Khan



I'm not too sure why anyone would even consider shooting or lynching white eagle today. He claimed to be a tracker out of the blue. He's a noob and it doesn't really seem like he would make such a silly mistake. If he's mafia, surely his team is coaching him on what to say...why would they tell him to out himself like that?
Leaving white alive, at least for tonight is the only thing that makes sense in my mind. He's an informative role and we're considering killing him? Not sure that makes any sense, nor does applying any guilt to him for cone being town.