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| Yea | 17 | 70.83% | |
| Nay | 2 | 8.33% | |
| Maybea | 4 | 16.67% | |
| Total: | 23 | ||
PullusPardus said:
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It's phenomenal - and for what it's worth, I don't say that easily.
It's "hard" scifi though, so not for everyone.
DaveyBoy88 said:
It's "hard" scifi though, so not for everyone. |
Hard is the way i like it (lol)
exception is probably things like Dune.
| Nicklesbe said: Mr. Dr. killinger.... I have to say I disagree with nanomachines. Not saying its a bad idea, its a great idea. Problem with machines especially nanomachines is the fact that the body will continually attack them and the body will reject them. So they would constantly be needing some sort of medication to regulate that so that the body doesn't reject them. Then there is always the possibility that someone could hack them which would have interesting implications in game which isn't a bad thing. Then there is the possibility of running into an electromagnetic field and just having them all get fried and become useless. Which again offers interesting implications. |
There are many incorrect statements in this thread. Dare I say it, there are more incorrect statements than correct ones. This
"the body will continually attack them and the body will reject them"
is among them. The body doesn't kill all foreign invaders. E. Coli for instance. There is no reason why nanomachines can't be "friendly".
"Then there is always the possibility that someone could hack them which would have interesting implications in game which isn't a bad thing. Then there is the possibility of running into an electromagnetic field and just having them all get fried and become useless. Which again offers interesting implications. "
You make two very good observations! This is indeed a good thing as it gives the story/game more options and intrigue!
| Scoobes said: If you want to use internal nanomachines then you'll need to make sure they have a significant biological component to overcome the immune response (or effectively make the immune system assume they're naturally meant to be there). Also, I wouldn't have the AI tightly controlling the genetic pool to reduce diversity. This simply increases the likelihood of disease spreading and affecting the majority of the population and potentially across multiple colonies. Whilst the AI can regulate the nanomachines and enhance the attributes needed for space survival, I don't think scientists would find limiting genetic diversity to be a particularly good idea in the mid to long-term. |
Agreed and... Agreed!
| Dr.Henry_Killinger said: Good point, I hadn't considered that. Although, I don't know if specicition would even take thousands of years in some cases unregulated, because Allopatric speciation, speciation by geographic isolation, has occured in within a couple of generations, mainly this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allopatric_speciation#Genesis_of_reproductive_barriers. And increased radiation could easily lead to a lot more mutations. But even if Diversity should be preseved, its hard to explain how diversity can be both encouraged while simultaneously maintaining the sturucter of genetic code, when the nanomachines prevent the very thing, mutations, that the process of diversifying consists of. I also assumed that the nanomachines would also act as a buffered immune system eliminating any kind of pathogens, if the environment wasn't completely sterile in the first place. |
Interesting. Good point.
Genetic engineering makes more sense than nano machines in this particular case, I think.
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In Metal Gear Solid 4 they explained a lot of things.with nanomachines, it's always convenient when you can't explain certain things. It's all thanks to the nanomachines!
Another option would using alien lifeforms instead of humans as the protagonists.
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I'm more for genetic engineering over nano machines as being a likely solution to these issues in the future. Beyond the moral implications genetic engineering is already done on a large number of different systems, the only science fiction part would be what genes from where were used to make up for difficiencies. Would require that you find out about organisms or at least a clever combination of proteins from different organisms that would deal with each issue you mentioned. Wonder if there's any organism that has a heightened ability to repair DNA. I know there are DNA Polymerases with different chances of mutation causing errors so it's possible that one that's less error prone than the Human variant could be used to decrease diversity as you mentioned. I'll have to think about this more one day out of curiosity.
If you want something that can be controlled by an outside AI I imagine it might be possible (if we knew everything there is to now about protein structure and function) to genetically engineer protein synthesis systems into everyone which are designed to only work on plasmids with a certain leader sequence included. Assuming that you knew what type of protein you needed for any given issue and DNA synthesis was trivial and could be done on a tiny scale you could then have every person wearing an automatic plasmid creator and injector which will then encode proteins that the protein synthesis system you added to each person will recognize and create to solve whatever problem arises. The issue then would be coming up with a reporter system so that injector would know what medical issues are arising. I'd have to think about that last bit some more.
Just some random thoughts as it's fun to consider the possibilities, best of luck with your story.
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