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BeElite said:
Well yahh its a given now, the "its to early to say" argument been wrong for a while now guys lol/

Since the June price cut, in the scope of an entire gen, is "a while now"????



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DerNebel said:
JayWood2010 said:


You are right dernerbel, there is that possibility of UNcharted growing and Halo shrinking. I dont think that will happen but i wouldnt bet against either. Anything can happen.  My point however was that his "potential" that he was talking about has no base.


I would predict about the same for Uncharted.  Around 7 million.  




       

JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

 


That is exactly what i thought, because as i said Zelda is not as big as Halo(it has been this way for years, and nobody is talking about decades of sales either).  Nobody is talking about mario accept for you

and Small44

Well here is a better question, if even Mario couldn't save the Wii U, why is Halo the series that sold less than Zelda, going to save the XB1?



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Ummm yeah a whole 8 months in and only like 600k behind the PS4....... it's all over guys guess MS should just throw in the towel right now.



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
JayWood2010 said:

and Small44

Well here is a better question, if even Mario couldn't save the Wii U, why is Halo the series that sold less than Zelda, going to save the XB1?


Both Mario and Zelda couldnt stop XBOX and Halo from outselling the Gamecube.  Halo is one of those games that people buy consoles for.  And I dont believe XBO needs saved either, though i wont get into that topic.  




       

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small44 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:

Xbox's Biggest First Party is behind Nintendo's Zelda, so its not even close to Mario. Its like comparing the biggest rodent to the biggest mammal.

There is more Zelda games then Halo games no main Zelda game outsold Halo game

Ok cool, never said that though. 

75 mill > 53 mill



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:



Ok cool, never said that though. 

75 mill > 53 mill


How about comparing X360 halo to Wii Zelda ;)  Hey you can even throw in DS Zelda

Spoiler Alert: Halo 41m, Zelda 18m




       

DerNebel said:
JayWood2010 said:
daredevil.shark said:


Soory bro. But I used the term "potential". PS4's bigger install base + increasing attach rate + goodwill + hype can make miracles. I am not discrediting halo sales. They are very impressive. But change has started. And nothing stays at top forever.


Youre basing potential off what exactly? That is my point.  You can talk, and  ill show numbers

Not saying that UC4 is going to outsell Halo 5, but I think there is a pretty significant growth potential in store for UC4. The simple fact that ND has made TLOU, a game that when all is said and done could possibly sell 10 million or more units, should give UC4 a real boost in exposure, cause even if ND has always been a studio that was regarded very highly among PS fans, it was still that game that gave them a name that everyone in gaming has heard about, even more than UC2 did before that. Combine that with the game being an exclusive to basically the "worlds favourite console" and it's a guaranteed hit already, I personally expect the game to at least do 7 million.

And Halo could possibly shrink, I don't know that much about it, but I've heard that a lot of people weren't so happy with Halo 4, so who knows. I wouldn't say it's certain that UC4 will outsell Halo 5, but it's definitely not out of the cards.

People always bring up Uncharted..    Uncharted 3 sold LESS then Uncharted 2..  The series is going down in North America.. not up..  Yes.. Halo is going down also.. but Halo 4 outsold Uncharted 3 by 2.5 times in North America.     With around 30 million PS3 consoles Uncharted (2-3) only each sell 2-3 million in North America..   Halo (3-4) each sold 6-7 million in North America.. 

It would have to be one MAJOR shift in North America for Uncharted 4 sales to come anywhere NEAR Halo 5..    But you never know.. 



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JayWood2010 said:
Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
JayWood2010 said:

and Small44

Well here is a better question, if even Mario couldn't save the Wii U, why is Halo the series that sold less than Zelda, going to save the XB1?


Both Mario and Zelda couldnt stop XBOX and Halo from outselling the Gamecube.  Halo is one of those games that people buy consoles for.  And I dont believe XBO needs saved either, though i wont get into that topic.  

Fair enough.

OT: Regardless, Halo could've pushed the U.S Gap together, but MCC is going to sell to most of the Halo fanbase, who like TF, most likely already own XB1s so its Console Moving power is dubious. Halo 5 will come too late to even reverse the damage done from now till its release, let alone the current gap.

Banking on one game to sell a system is rarely succesful, and frankly the XB1s has very few things in its favor right now.



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kitler53 said:
no, no,. not at all. EA access will save the xbox.

Nah it'll just be another something X1 has over PS4 that will be celebrated by its fans but have no lasting effects in terms of hardware sales.

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