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Mr_No on 27 July 2014
Leadified said:
Mr_No said:
After venturing on PC gaming for a week, I deeply regret trying it on. It's been frustration after another. Case in point: Warframe. I'm playing in a laptop that has all the requirements except the graphic card. It seems I need an Nvidia card instead of the paltry Intel HD Graphics one, which I can't remove from a laptop. It's hard enough playing with a touchpad, so I use a Dell USB mouse I found around the house. First thing I notice is the input lag. I can still play with it, but the camera suddenly goes upwards and spins around. This issue has frustrated me in every way possible. I tried changing every options, putting the graphic options on low to no avail.

This is why I just prefer a console. You just need your trusty controller instead of going out there and buying the best and most expensive gamepad or mouse. And I prefer its simplicity. It's a real plug-and-play. Sure, it has nice graphics, but that doesn't mean anything to an Average Joe like me if it can't play properly.


There's no argument that on a console, unless the game is really shitty, you have a guarentee that everything will work smoothly. However I do think your experience was more bad luck, probably both on the hardware side of things and software, then a representation on how gaming on a PC is like. The only time I've personally had an input problem on a PC is when I was using a mouse I bought from the dollar store, I got what I paid for.

Also if PC is the only way to absolutely play Warframe and if you haven't tried already it won't hurt to try to plug in a DS3 or 4 and see if it works, from my experience it's fairly responsive.

I tried plugging in a DS3 before but it never responded, not even now. I saw somewhere about a specific program that helps the controller to run on a PC, and not even that helped at all. I remember some drivers being installed when plugging the controller for the first time. But nothing happened after that.



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archer9234 on 27 July 2014
Mr_No said:
Leadified said:
Mr_No said:
After venturing on PC gaming for a week, I deeply regret trying it on. It's been frustration after another. Case in point: Warframe. I'm playing in a laptop that has all the requirements except the graphic card. It seems I need an Nvidia card instead of the paltry Intel HD Graphics one, which I can't remove from a laptop. It's hard enough playing with a touchpad, so I use a Dell USB mouse I found around the house. First thing I notice is the input lag. I can still play with it, but the camera suddenly goes upwards and spins around. This issue has frustrated me in every way possible. I tried changing every options, putting the graphic options on low to no avail.

This is why I just prefer a console. You just need your trusty controller instead of going out there and buying the best and most expensive gamepad or mouse. And I prefer its simplicity. It's a real plug-and-play. Sure, it has nice graphics, but that doesn't mean anything to an Average Joe like me if it can't play properly.


There's no argument that on a console, unless the game is really shitty, you have a guarentee that everything will work smoothly. However I do think your experience was more bad luck, probably both on the hardware side of things and software, then a representation on how gaming on a PC is like. The only time I've personally had an input problem on a PC is when I was using a mouse I bought from the dollar store, I got what I paid for.

Also if PC is the only way to absolutely play Warframe and if you haven't tried already it won't hurt to try to plug in a DS3 or 4 and see if it works, from my experience it's fairly responsive.

I tried plugging in a DS3 before but it never responded, not even now. I saw somewhere about a specific program that helps the controller to run on a PC, and not even that helped at all. I remember some drivers being installed when plugging the controller for the first time. But nothing happened after that.

You need the motionjoy program. The DS3 doesn't actually jsut work when you plug it in. All it is installing is drivers to let it charge from your PC USB ports. But then you do need to configure it to fake a 360 controller. And sometimes it just messes up. I've had it just not want to connect. And to do wireless. You need certain bluetooth receveir brands. So you're forced to stay wired most of the time. And if you do snyc by wireless. You need a second DS3.

Or you're gonna need to keep re-pairing it to the PS3. And you'll also activate the PS3, if you're in range. Because you need to hit the home button to turn the controller on first, in wired mode. And if you do use your wireless bluetooth. Motionjoy alters it and won't let you connect to any other bluetooth device. So if you share files to your phone or something. You're SOL.



Numberfox on 27 July 2014

I just wanna say Steam has really streamlined the process, and the current consoles are emulating PCs a lot more than other generations :)



Current Consoles: Gaming PC, Wii U, 3DS

SubiyaCryolite on 27 July 2014
Mr_No said:
After venturing on PC gaming for a week, I deeply regret trying it on. It's been frustration after another. Case in point: Warframe. I'm playing in a laptop that has all the requirements except the graphic card. It seems I need an Nvidia card instead of the paltry Intel HD Graphics one, which I can't remove from a laptop. It's hard enough playing with a touchpad, so I use a Dell USB mouse I found around the house. First thing I notice is the input lag. I can still play with it, but the camera suddenly goes upwards and spins around. This issue has frustrated me in every way possible. I tried changing every options, putting the graphic options on low to no avail.

This is why I just prefer a console. You just need your trusty controller instead of going out there and buying the best and most expensive gamepad or mouse. And I prefer its simplicity. It's a real plug-and-play. Sure, it has nice graphics, but that doesn't mean anything to an Average Joe like me if it can't play properly.

Intel HD, theres your problem. You could have 64GBs of RAM and the fastest CPU on Earth and every game would still lag. Plus, you cant expect a good gaming experience (900p60 or 1080p60) on most laptops. Those that can offer good experiences are usually too expensive so I recommend a microATX form factor desktop PC with a 7850 level GPU and above.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

SubiyaCryolite on 27 July 2014

Plus practically every modern game released on PC supports the XBox 360/One controller. If your PC keeps crashing then you simply aren't doing something right.



I predict that the Wii U will sell a total of 18 million units in its lifetime. 

The NX will be a 900p machine

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Mr_No on 27 July 2014
archer9234 said:
Mr_No said:
Leadified said:


There's no argument that on a console, unless the game is really shitty, you have a guarentee that everything will work smoothly. However I do think your experience was more bad luck, probably both on the hardware side of things and software, then a representation on how gaming on a PC is like. The only time I've personally had an input problem on a PC is when I was using a mouse I bought from the dollar store, I got what I paid for.

Also if PC is the only way to absolutely play Warframe and if you haven't tried already it won't hurt to try to plug in a DS3 or 4 and see if it works, from my experience it's fairly responsive.

I tried plugging in a DS3 before but it never responded, not even now. I saw somewhere about a specific program that helps the controller to run on a PC, and not even that helped at all. I remember some drivers being installed when plugging the controller for the first time. But nothing happened after that.

You need the motionjoy program. The DS3 doesn't actually jsut work when you plug it in. All it is installing is drivers to let it charge from your PC USB ports. But then you do need to configure it to fake a 360 controller. And sometimes it just messes up. I've had it just not want to connect. And to do wireless. You need certain bluetooth receveir brands. So you're forced to stay wired most of the time. And if you do snyc by wireless. You need a second DS3.

Or you're gonna need to keep re-pairing it to the PS3. And you'll also activate the PS3, if you're in range. Because you need to hit the home button to turn the controller on first, in wired mode. And if you do use your wireless bluetooth. Motionjoy alters it and won't let you connect to any other bluetooth device. So if you share files to your phone or something. You're SOL.

I have used MotionInJoy before, and it never worked. I even tried to use it on an older computer, but still nothing. I'm even trying to use Scp Driver as an alternative, and still nothing. I think this is bad luck like Leadified mentioned. And my laptop is pretty decent (8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, Intel Core i7 2670QM @ 2.20 GHz, 64-bit OS) except the graphics card I can't change. I wouldn't mind that the controller is wired all the time, but I'd like that it turns on when it's plugged on the computer.



archer9234 on 27 July 2014
Mr_No said:
archer9234 said:
Mr_No said:
Leadified said:


There's no argument that on a console, unless the game is really shitty, you have a guarentee that everything will work smoothly. However I do think your experience was more bad luck, probably both on the hardware side of things and software, then a representation on how gaming on a PC is like. The only time I've personally had an input problem on a PC is when I was using a mouse I bought from the dollar store, I got what I paid for.

Also if PC is the only way to absolutely play Warframe and if you haven't tried already it won't hurt to try to plug in a DS3 or 4 and see if it works, from my experience it's fairly responsive.

I tried plugging in a DS3 before but it never responded, not even now. I saw somewhere about a specific program that helps the controller to run on a PC, and not even that helped at all. I remember some drivers being installed when plugging the controller for the first time. But nothing happened after that.

You need the motionjoy program. The DS3 doesn't actually jsut work when you plug it in. All it is installing is drivers to let it charge from your PC USB ports. But then you do need to configure it to fake a 360 controller. And sometimes it just messes up. I've had it just not want to connect. And to do wireless. You need certain bluetooth receveir brands. So you're forced to stay wired most of the time. And if you do snyc by wireless. You need a second DS3.

Or you're gonna need to keep re-pairing it to the PS3. And you'll also activate the PS3, if you're in range. Because you need to hit the home button to turn the controller on first, in wired mode. And if you do use your wireless bluetooth. Motionjoy alters it and won't let you connect to any other bluetooth device. So if you share files to your phone or something. You're SOL.

I have used MotionInJoy before, and it never worked. I even tried to use it on an older computer, but still nothing. I'm even trying to use Scp Driver as an alternative, and still nothing. I think this is bad luck like Leadified mentioned. And my laptop is pretty decent (8GB RAM, 750GB HDD, Intel Core i7 2670QM @ 2.20 GHz, 64-bit OS) except the graphics card I can't change. I wouldn't mind that the controller is wired all the time, but I'd like that it turns on when it's plugged on the computer.

That's really bizzare. It's gotta be some weird combo of your hardware just failing it for some reason. That sucks.



Conina on 27 July 2014
archer9234 said:
Conina said:
archer9234 said:
Conina said:

So which playstation model can play *all* the playstation games? Every PS game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Nintendo console can play *all* the Nintendo games? Every Nintendo game of the 1990's, 2000's and 2010's?

Which Xbox console can play *all* the Xbox games? Every Xbox game of the 2000's and 2010's?

If you want to have access to *all* games, you need several consoles. The backwards compatibility of PCs is much better than the backwards compatibility of consoles or handhelds... not every old PC game works on a new PC, but most of them. And for the problematic games you could keep an old PC with Windows 98 available... just like the old consoles.

But it's easier to keep your old consoles still, than to deal with a PC. You just need: Model 1 PS3, PS4, An SNES with 3rd party NES game adapter, n64, Wii model 1, Wii U. Sony 2, Nintendo 4. And if you factor in VC stuff. 2 Nintendo consoles.

Not every PS2 game was PS3 compatible, even to the launch-model. Ratchet & Clank 2 didn't ran on my PS3, Ratchet & Clank 3 had massive slowdowns, Jack Bauer and his enemies were invisible in "24 - The Game"... so we are already at 3 PlayStations, if you want to play *all* games... plus 4 Nintendo consoles, plus 3 Xboxes. Yeah, it's much easier to keep 10 consoles than 2 PCs. ;)

And if we factor in VC stuff (where only a fraction of the classics is available), we can also factor in PC emulators, ScummVM, DosBox and VMs.

Sure is easier to keep my consoles. I store them in 2 boxes. My argument is PC will always be complicated to the majority. They don't want to deal with any form of nonsense. They just want things to work. VC on consoles does just work. Emulation on PC doesn't always work right. I can't play Armada and Porche even in Vmware. They just crash. And to get to emulation PC, you need to actually have a lot of things. You ignoring the fact you need to either have kept your OS installtion disc. Or get a ISO. Then install it.

You may also need to tweak the virtual BIOS settings etc. Getting windows 95 to work fully was a nightmare in VMware. So many drivers are not setup automatically. And Dosbox, you gotta know how MS-DOS commands work. Try telling someone you have to mount a second hard drive to spoof the cdrom drive, in order to get certain games to install and play right. Setup the old annoying Soundblaster audio. To configure the emulators resolution you have to edit a config file. Making desktop shortcuts require you to add in a string to the Dos box shortcut. This is extra junk no one wants to do. Granted, some sites have DOSbox setup to run the game. But almost all the time, dosbox itself isn't configured correct. I have wrong audio ports. Because another game is setup different. I do all this because It's fun to fix older games, to me. Not a person who just wants to load up a game and that's it.

Windows games from 1995 - 2000 are problematic on a 64-bit-Windows, nobody is denying that. Many of the popular games of that era were fixed for 64-bit-systems with the re-release on Steam or GOG: System Shock 2, all Tomb Raider games, all Dark Forces / Jedi Knight games, all YDKJ games, all Oddworld games, Thief Gold, Shadow Man, Final Fantasy 7 + 8, The Last Express, Fallout 1 + 2, Larry 7, Gabriel Knight 2 + 3 and many more.

Most MS-DOS games from 1980 - 1996 are no problem, when you buy them at Steam or GOG... these versions are already prepared to run on new Windows systems. Each game from them has its own DOSbox setup, so a wrong installed DOSbox of one game CAN'T influence another game. If you don't have very exotic hardware, these games run instantly as the should... no install.exe and no setup.exe has to be started manually.

And most Windows games from 2001 up to the present are no problem either, with the release of the 64-bit-version of Windows 2000 most game developers included 64-bit-compatibility.

So most PC games of 1980 - 1994, many PC games of 1995 - 2000 and most PC games of 2001 - 2014 work on a new PC... not bad compared to other platforms. 



Conina on 27 July 2014
SubiyaCryolite said:
Plus practically every modern game released on PC supports the XBox 360/One controller.

Yeah, the best PC gamepad IMHO is the wired 360-controller. Compatible to most PC games of 2005 - 2014 and many older games, sturdy built and lies good in the hands.

I just tried it with the PC-version of Warframe... works instantly, no need to change the controller-setup. But the game devs were lazy, the on screen symbols don't change to the controller buttons.



Experimental42 on 27 July 2014

You and I all know computer games are cheaper, but most gamers I know don't even know what steam is, so price factors in for them, just not an accurate price.

Consoles are undeniably simpler than computers as well. I think the people used to PC don't realize how much more complex everything is because it's now second nature to them.