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End of July :/ 14 4.64%
 
August 170 56.29%
 
September 74 24.50%
 
October 19 6.29%
 
November 7 2.32%
 
December 18 5.96%
 
Total:302
eva01beserk said:
tak13 said:
logisticalnightmare said:
It would be a logistical nightmare if Nintendo only had 20k in the world besides japan. You would see severe supply constrain for months if that were the case. We got no reports of that. Also, you would see Nintendo's sales numbers being hit hard. Like only 20k a week WW because it would ridiculously hard to find one.

We know Japan had about 60k in channels. Using their population compared to stock you'd expect to see about 200k in Na (Canada and Us) alone. And that makes perfect sense. Every retailer is well supplied. That's what you see. But what you don't see is so is their warehouses in the back. You also don't see their distribution center that sends dozens of stores their supply. They need to be well stocked. And freighters in the ocean would have a steady flow. If any of these are messed up then guess what. Logistical nightmares. It's overtracked by at least 300k (last quarter alone)probably more like 400k at this point. Japan has 8 weeks of supply. Which makes sense. At 50k a week WW, that would place it at about 400k on shelves. Which makes sense.

Wake up!new quarter new shipments...

This I dont get. Its like if people pretend that when the quater ends thats when  the companies actually ship that total amount in one go. As far as anyone know, demand for mario kart was so high that they had to ship a new bage by next week. especially considering that stores where not ordering a lot due to the little demand back then.

Your complete lack of understanding on the subject is startling.



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logisticalnightmare said:
eva01beserk said:
tak13 said:

Wake up!new quarter new shipments...

This I dont get. Its like if people pretend that when the quater ends thats when  the companies actually ship that total amount in one go. As far as anyone know, demand for mario kart was so high that they had to ship a new bage by next week. especially considering that stores where not ordering a lot due to the little demand back then.

Your complete lack of understanding on the subject is startling.

I get  the whole 80k only in shelfs and 60k of thouse are only japan, wich is why I said the other part. Demand for the wii u was so low, that stores did not order to many and they will definetly not want to have 500k wii us in storage thinking they will sell that in a year. They would most likely ordered it as the supply was gone. Retailers where being cautious and not order many, so for me at least it makes sense that there are not many in shelves at that time. The same thing that happened to the x1 and MS had to stop producing them and shiped less because demand was low and they would otherwise pile up. This is why shiped numbers dont mean much for the wii u or x1, while for ps4 is spot on cuz they are sold as soon as they arrive.



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eva01beserk said:

I get  the whole 80k only in shelfs and 60k of thouse are only japan, wich is why I said the other part. Demand for the wii u was so low, that stores did not order to many and they will definetly not want to have 500k wii us in storage thinking they will sell that in a year. They would most likely ordered it as the supply was gone. Retailers where being cautious and not order many, so for me at least it makes sense that there are not many in shelves at that time. The same thing that happened to the x1 and MS had to stop producing them and shiped less because demand was low and they would otherwise pile up. This is why shiped numbers dont mean much for the wii u or x1, while for ps4 is spot on cuz they are sold as soon as they arrive.

Did we ever hear of severe supply constrain for wii u? No. But thats what you'd expect to happen if you think retailers would wait that long. We know they weren't supply constrained so what you said is completely wrong.



BTW - if Walmart only had 4 units per store in the Us alone then they would take up the entire 20k units for the world stock. I'd actually expect at least twice that much in Walmart stores alone. Also I'd expect their distribution centers to have a healthy allotment as well. This also doesn't take into account freighters in the ocean. Seriously, Walmart probably had more than double in the us alone the 20k number. Target probably had 20k alone in stores and distribution centers. Amazon probably had more than target. Gamestop and best buy probably had more than Walmart. Every other store problem had a couple thousand.



logisticalnightmare said:
eva01beserk said:

I get  the whole 80k only in shelfs and 60k of thouse are only japan, wich is why I said the other part. Demand for the wii u was so low, that stores did not order to many and they will definetly not want to have 500k wii us in storage thinking they will sell that in a year. They would most likely ordered it as the supply was gone. Retailers where being cautious and not order many, so for me at least it makes sense that there are not many in shelves at that time. The same thing that happened to the x1 and MS had to stop producing them and shiped less because demand was low and they would otherwise pile up. This is why shiped numbers dont mean much for the wii u or x1, while for ps4 is spot on cuz they are sold as soon as they arrive.

Did we ever hear of severe supply constrain for wii u? No. But thats what you'd expect to happen if you think retailers would wait that long. We know they weren't supply constrained so what you said is completely wrong.

Supply constrained would mean that retailers and consumers wanted more but nintendo dint hve it. Thats completly the oposite of what I sugested as that nintendo had it, but retailers and consumers dint want it so stores did not have it. So you would never have heard of something like that.



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eva01beserk said:
logisticalnightmare said:
eva01beserk said:

I get  the whole 80k only in shelfs and 60k of thouse are only japan, wich is why I said the other part. Demand for the wii u was so low, that stores did not order to many and they will definetly not want to have 500k wii us in storage thinking they will sell that in a year. They would most likely ordered it as the supply was gone. Retailers where being cautious and not order many, so for me at least it makes sense that there are not many in shelves at that time. The same thing that happened to the x1 and MS had to stop producing them and shiped less because demand was low and they would otherwise pile up. This is why shiped numbers dont mean much for the wii u or x1, while for ps4 is spot on cuz they are sold as soon as they arrive.

Did we ever hear of severe supply constrain for wii u? No. But thats what you'd expect to happen if you think retailers would wait that long. We know they weren't supply constrained so what you said is completely wrong.

Supply constrained would mean that retailers and consumers wanted more but nintendo dint hve it. Thats completly the oposite of what I sugested as that nintendo had it, but retailers and consumers dint want it so stores did not have it. So you would never have heard of something like that.


Look, I get it. You don't want to suffer the heart break of seeing reality and rather live under the guise that wii u is selling better than reality. However, the faster you accept it's majorly overtracked the faster we can get past it when it gets adjusted down.

 

What you said makes no fucking sense. Selling 20k a week in US but only having 10k to sell that week doesn't mean supply constrained because consumers didn't want it so retail didnt have it? Wow my head hurts from that nonsense 



eva01beserk said:

Supply constrained would mean that retailers and consumers wanted more but nintendo dint hve it. Thats completly the oposite of what I sugested as that nintendo had it, but retailers and consumers dint want it so stores did not have it. So you would never have heard of something like that.

"Supply of demand constrained" :P

In all seriousness, I remember a knowledgeable Neogaf poster mentioning Nintendo have a storage problem (as in making too many Wii U's that aren't getting sold to retailers) and it's costing them a lot of money.

I wouldn't be surprised if the number of Wii U's out there being bought by retailers is quite low. Although anything less than 200k in channels seems unlikely.



Purple said:
eva01beserk said:

Supply constrained would mean that retailers and consumers wanted more but nintendo dint hve it. Thats completly the oposite of what I sugested as that nintendo had it, but retailers and consumers dint want it so stores did not have it. So you would never have heard of something like that.

"Supply of demand constrained" :P

In all seriousness, I remember a knowledgeable Neogaf poster mentioning Nintendo have a storage problem and it's costing them quite a lot of money. You'd assume they've slowed down production now (which would cost them quite a bit of money too).


I wouldn't be surprised if the number of Wii U's out there is quite low. Although anything less than 200k seems unlikely.


Anything less than 200k in NA I hope you mean. Japan alone has 60k with a tiny country and a population of 125m. na is a bigger market, bigger cland mass and has 3 times the population. 



logisticalnightmare said:


Anything less than 200k in NA I hope you mean. Japan alone has 60k with a tiny country and a population of 125m. na is a bigger market, bigger cland mass and has 3 times the population. 

Yeah it's obviously a lot more.

I was just saying, the person I quoted made a good point. When demand gets really low, the amount of stock in channels is usually much lower as well as retailers become reluctant to order it. A good example of this is how the Vita is getting hard to find in America.



logisticalnightmare said:
Purple said:
eva01beserk said:

Supply constrained would mean that retailers and consumers wanted more but nintendo dint hve it. Thats completly the oposite of what I sugested as that nintendo had it, but retailers and consumers dint want it so stores did not have it. So you would never have heard of something like that.

"Supply of demand constrained" :P

In all seriousness, I remember a knowledgeable Neogaf poster mentioning Nintendo have a storage problem and it's costing them quite a lot of money. You'd assume they've slowed down production now (which would cost them quite a bit of money too).


I wouldn't be surprised if the number of Wii U's out there is quite low. Although anything less than 200k seems unlikely.


Anything less than 200k in NA I hope you mean. Japan alone has 60k with a tiny country and a population of 125m. na is a bigger market, bigger cland mass and has 3 times the population. 

200k? Are you serious now? Demand worlwide for the wii u was under 30k. If you asume NA as 50% of the market then that would be 15k a week, that would be like 14 weeks of stock available for the demand at the time. Do you really think retailers would hold on to that much stock of a product that was not selling?

80k was already 3 weeks of stock for that time, wich is still a little low, so I asume that on shelfs retailers wpuld not want more than a month of stock, so 120k would be the most they would want, around the world.

Since you seem to be 100% sold on seeces argument that retailers want 8 weeks of stock in shelves, this only makes sence for a product that is selling well. For a product tha dosent, like the wii u was at the time, 4 weeks would be to much.



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