I consider PCs to be a dumping ground for low standard software.It's not like consoles,not to say there isnt good games on PC

Agreed. MS's strategy from last-gen was like a match. You can only use it once and after that, you can't use it again. Now, we're seeing MS suffering from the consequences of adopting one-time-only tactics and now, they're fumbling for a good long-term solution.

....doubt it. MS has never came CLOSE to winning a gen. 360 was their best shot and its still about 20mil behind Wii and its not going to catch it.

Nintendo pretty much strolled through the 7th gen but it did sell the most consoles, a generation of console is not dictated by how high its resolution is or if it's HD or not, HD was just as new as motion control even if it was just a gimmick it was a gimmick that sold over 100 million Wii's, Microsoft will have to dig very deep to find a way of being a generation winner but i just can't see them doing that, i think the next big thing is going to be VR headsets, that's where you are truely emersed into the virtual world, racing games, first person shooters, flight sims just imagin what those will be like with VR, if Microsoft has any sense they too should be developing their own VR headset for the XB1.

ok...we pretty much agree. Europe is Sony land. Japan doesnt seem to care much for consoles these days ESPECIALLY anything MS releated. US contrary to what some may say that is No one's land. It can go either way and right now its favoring Sony

Nope, too late, they didn't lose the 7th generation though

There si something very very wrong with the way your mind works. I honestly can't tell if you are serious or if ur really that far gone. MS didn't care? Sony "bought" second place? lol.... I guess I have really heard it all.

Anyways, MS losing today is cause somewheer during the life of the 360, they forgot that they XBOX was supposed to be a games console. Then made the XO with that new vision of the xbox brand they had in their heads. It backfired.

The thing some people don't understand is that all companies try to "buy" 1st place each generation. When I say "buy", it really means investing  money into a product and vision, and hope that the consumers buy into them. Why some people grossly overreact to this fact baffles me immensley.

However, not all companies are the same and some will resort to unethical practices. Rather than bolstering their own products, they would sabatoge their competitors' (e.g. parity clause). Even when they bolster their own products, they do so through draconian policies (e.g. Rare being relegated to Kinect software only). This is why MS tends to be blamed more often than Sony (note that I'm NOT saying that Sony is blameless) for trying to "buy" 2nd place. Heck, some of the tactics MS used last gen are still practiced now in some shape or form (e.g. ID@Xbox).

Neither Microsoft or Sony won last gen....sales wise.

Sony lost billions doing massive price cuts to the PS3 year after year.

Had they not been willing to do that, the PS3 would have sold significantly less. Simple as that.

It odd that people ignore this. People only care about MS's financial failures.