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NobleTeam360 on 12 July 2014

Haters gonna hate, you can't change blind fanboyism with rational discussion.



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DigitalDevilSummoner on 12 July 2014
Zekkyou said:
They did of course play it safe with the hardware


Comparing flops, wattage and size, one didn't play it as safe as the other.

NobleTeam360 said:
Haters gonna hate, you can't change blind fanboyism with rational discussion.

You are trying to be diplomatic when most of the OP is easily refutable.



d21lewis on 12 July 2014
Jizz_Beard_thePirate said:
Yea but Sega died in the hardware business but Microsoft made paying for online popular so....


Surely you can't blame them for succeeding?  The offered more thann Sega at a cheaper price and people saw value in it.  Nothing wrong with that.



Carl on 12 July 2014

Thank you, Microsoft. Thank you for all that you've done



                            

NobleTeam360 on 12 July 2014

Lol, I remember the putting the PS1 upside down thing, I went through 3 or 4 PS1 consoles. Went through 2 PS2's.



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DigitalDevilSummoner on 12 July 2014
Ka-pi96 said:
DigitalDevilSummoner said:

Myth:  Microsoft made it okay to launch a console with faulty hardware

"Also suffered" is grossly missleading. Neither the PS1's nor PS2's fail rates were ever comparable.


I can only speak from personal experience but PS2s fail rates were some of the worst ever. Probably worse than 360s. To make it even worse a broke 360 is broke, no question about it. But a PS2 had multiple ways to break, I don't technically have a broken PS2 at the moment but I also don't have one capable of playing blue disc games so...

Edit: As for PS1, didn't know there were ever problems with them. My original PS1 still works

I broke 3 PS1s (and many of my friends at the time had problems too). Only had one PS2 though.

Again, the consoles certainly had problems but the OP is baseless. Nothing comes close to the fail rates of the 360 consoles (until the 2008 motherboard revision).



d21lewis on 12 July 2014
DigitalDevilSummoner said:

 

Myth:  Microsoft was the one that started making us pay for online gaming

Dreamarena was free.

Myth:  Microsoft made it okay to launch a console with faulty hardware

"Also suffered" is grossly missleading. Neither the PS1's nor PS2's fail rates were ever comparable.

Myth:  Microsoft ruined the industry with their exclusivity deals

Again missleading. MS "ruined" or better hindered part of the industry by making games exclusive that were quite simply not selling on the platform. Outside of well known Japanese titles, I think exclusivity also proved out to be a mistake for Alan Wake as well.

 

Dreamarena being free doesn't make SegaNet non existent.  What kind of argument is that?

And even if (as you say) the Playstation's failure rate isn't comparable, it also existed.  It was a class action lawsuit.  I'm not making this stuff up.  Google it.  Hell, I treat my consoles like royalty.  I personally went through two PS1's and 3 PS2's.



KLXVER on 12 July 2014

I just stole something. Its ok because someone stole something before me, right?



DigitalDevilSummoner on 12 July 2014

Here's what pisses me off about people defending MS... I like MS ! They don't defend MS, the defend the xbox brand.

I used to speak in favour of Windows in the 90s when they were shit and my friends all used linux.

This is not MS. Hell, this isn't even Microsoft gaming. MS gaming was the shit with flight simulator and AOE. It's just the xbox division that fucked up.



SvennoJ on 12 July 2014

Really officer, I'm innocent, the guy before me ran the red light too.