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phaedruss said:
kekrot said:
I don't know everything about FFVII since it has many complex options you can play with if you're very familiar with the game. But I love the Materia system.

Any other RPGs that has something similar? I'd like to try another game like that system. Overall I like FFVII very much, one of my favourite RPG games. I haven't played many other games in the series though, only I, II, VI, VIII and XIII. Haven't finished any other than VII either.


Many RPG's have far better customization that FF7, but for one with a materia-like system there's path of exile. Not really a console RPG though.


Thanks. I'm not the biggest RPG fan on the planet, but I've tried some of them. The only JRPG I usually play is Pokémon... There's lots of customization in those too. 



Yep.

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deskpro2k3 said:
Anfebious said:
deskpro2k3 said:

Going to play FFVII again. This will be 12th time. Its epic everytime! Best FF, and rpg.

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To be honest, I've beaten all the single player FF games and none of them compels me to replay them over again except for FF7. I've played 7 so many times and I don't know why. FF7 Crisis Core is the reason why I bought a PSP too.

SE themself stated that they haven't bested FF7 in terms of sales and success.



Hello...Chrono Trigger? Paper Mario TTYD? Xenoblade? Have you even played Final Fantasy VI?



vivster said:

Yes. Tifa is the best RPG ever made. People would've played the game if it was just Tifa on a blank surface, black background and doing nothing in her blocky awesomeness and still heralded it as the best game ever..


No, that would be the worst RPG ever made. Now Tifa on a bikin,in a beach, doing dirty things with those two arguments, that would have been the best game ever made.



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Anfebious said:
vivster said:
 

Yes. Tifa is the best RPG ever made. People would've played the game if it was just Tifa on a blank surface, black background and doing nothing in her blocky awesomeness and still heralded it as the best game ever..


No, that would be the worst RPG ever made. Now Tifa on a bikin,in a beach, doing dirty things with those two arguments, that would have been the best game ever made.

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I feel like after a certain level, it doesn't really matter if you're "the best". Final Fantasy VI, VII, IX, Chrono Trigger, Pokemon, Suikoden 2, and more all deserve a rightful place at the top of the list in some way or another.



VII was a turd that only casuals and mainstreamers love because it was their first JRPG.  For the rest of us it marks the decline of the Square we loved and the start of the mediocrity and mainstream appeal poisoning we have today. 

Real FF fans and JRPG veterans know that 4 and 6 are the best and most timeless and endearing Final Fantasy games and that Xenogears is actually the most incredible story ever told in any form of media.

The demographic that favors VII was probably 15-18 and drove a Civic with neon underglows when VII came out.

Just compare the nearly hour long ending sequence of IV and VI to VIIs stupid 30 second FMV. It's lame.



phaedruss said:
Intrinsic said:
Nope. disagree. Thats just his nostalgia talking. I feel FF8, FF9 and FF12 were all better. In every imaginable way that made FF7 good. Well, with exception to the story in FF12 which started off the best but somewhere along the line just stopped being a story and a straight line to the credits.

And even FF13 still uses a turn based system, though very different from the traditional turn based system. And I feel FF12 was the best as far as managing your parties actions are concerned while still using a turn based system.


FF XII was horrible when it came to managing your party unless you mean putting them on auto-pilot.

Wow... then you must have never used the gambit system properly. It may sound like auto-pilot, but its depth of customizations allowed for near infinite possibilties.

You could set a character to use a certain type of heal spell on the party when HP dropped below a certain percentage, or to use a focused more powerful heal spell when when one character recieved instant and extreme damage. You could have one particluar character set to constsantly evive your fallen party members and then have another party member set to only revive the healer if he dies. You could set you party to use certain types of attack spells after a certain prompt..eg, cast or use an item that makes chracters weaker to fire magic, and that will trigger all your chracters to use fire magic on that character for the duration of that status effect. Or casting slow on an enemy can prompt a party member to cast haste on all of your party..etc

I could go on forever, the gambit system was honestly the most ingenious and deepest party management system I have ever seen and allowed you really do so much more in combat rather than micro manage everything. If you have a perfect gambit setup for any combination of party members... its really a beauty to watch everything fall into place.



Gotta say, the Final Fantasy series never really grabbed me. Though the argument in the OP seemed to be a little .. weak.

My personal favorites (not necessarily games I'd call the BEST in the genre) would have to be Shadow Hearts, Xenoblade, Shin Megami Tensei: Strange Journey, Persona 2, and Tales of the Abyss. Unfortunately, I missed out on a lot of classics from the PS1 as a kid since we never owned the console, and playing them now just doesn't have the same impact.