As long as he admits that the sounds are bad, I'm happy.

Yep, I agree, to me it seems like the always entitled brats complaining about useless things.

See this might backfire. Turn 10 decided to take the heat when they started from scratch with Forza 5. 360 models upgraded to the next gen just wouldn't look as good as ground-up models. But at least now Forza 6 will have F5 cars as a base and work back up to a respectably large roster.

People WILL see the flaws when the PS2 models make it to PS4. But I imagine Sony wanted the marketing tool of "1000+ CARS" as a selling point.

Respect. You aren't as bias as I thought. It is good to see credit given to where its due.

Well technically Forza 4, the last Forza on 360, has 665 premium cars compared to GT6 having 452.

Unless you are unfairly comparing GT6 to F5 based on something as arbitrary as release timeline, because Turn 10 decided to start fresh rather then half-ass upgrade their 360 assets. Plus they are different gens. So F4 is a better game to compare.

They're not PS2 car models! In GT6 all the cars looked fine in photo mode or in replays. The premium cars have a cockpit view and the so called "PS2" models have a generic cockpit. I always use first person view anyway. You guys make too much of a big deal with standard vs premium. All the cars look fine from the outside. It makes no sense to get rid of those cars. Now there are a few tracks that definitely need an upgrade, but I'd rather have those tracks to race than not have them at all.

If they exclude all cars that don't have a rendered cockpit view people will complain about how we're missing so many cars, and with them keeping them everyone gets upset, "Oh ps2 ugly models" blah blah. If they didn't tell you how many standard models there are it wouldn't be such a big deal. Almost like when the resolution is mentioned on a XboxOne game 900p vs PS4 1080p. If they didn't tell you it wouldn't be such a big deal.

They been admitting that the sounds are bad they where supposed to fix it with a update in 6 but I guess they are going to wait until 7 to fix the problem.

Well with all the DLC and unicorn cars there are actually 671 cars in Forza 5 of course you can't own them all since the garage limit is 550 cars not that many people come close to ever getting that many cars I played it over 250 hours and still have less then 300 cars.

If I mentioned 5, I didnt mean to. As for 4 and GT5/6 I wouldnt consider them the same level of 'premium'

Yeah forza has more cars of a consistant quality, but when GT does it right, those cars look way better than forza's that I wouldnt classify both of them as 'premium'. Plus GT runs at a higher resolution so that adds to the clarity, especially in the interiors (cars which have one)

And im not sure what you mean by a half ass upgrade. The cars that were built for GT5 were premium, the cars which were ported were standard. The ports were not upgraded to premium. It wouldnt be a bad thing if FM5 included FM4 cars which it wasnt going to make anyway. Atleast people could drive those cars even if they did look slightly worse. Its not like theres a massive difference between them.

In Forza 4 all the cars have a consistent quality.  In GT5 not only is there a huge difference between standard and premium quality but there is also a inconsisten range between how each premium and standard car looks some are a lot more detailed then others ans trust me I know what I'm talking about I played both titles over 200 hours each.