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Forums - Microsoft - Phil Spencer Promises Xbox One Family Sharing Is Still on the Roadmap; Explains Challenges Holding it Back

kowenicki said:
LiquorandGunFun said:
kowenicki said:
Make it digital only.

Solved.

Then those that argue for physical, physical, physical can follow the model, as demonstrated, of handing the disc over in person. The rest of us with digital content can move into the 21st century.

I don't see why it cant be digital only. Indeed, it should be digital only to force the issue. Yeah... I said it.

Don Mattrick is that you?

Yeah if you hate xbox.

sorry?

Can you explain yourself and your viewpoint better please.

 

basically i dont agree with the digital aspect to force digital. however i do see where your coming from.



 

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kowenicki said:
The Fury said:
Puppyroach said:

Agreed. From the start, I decided to go all digital this generation, and for those stuck with bying physical copies, well they can blame themselves for not evolving. MS must push the digital alternative, but in a smoother way than last year :).

Dead Rising 3 on high street is £25 or so, on the Xbox Live store it's £50. Titanfall is £55 on live, high street is £20. Competative prices don't exist on their monopolied Xbox Store and therefore it's a ripoff to buy digital. They sort this out then maybe many of us will evolve.


Well, obviously.  This is part of the issue.  Then again, if I can share a game with 10 friends and they can share with me.... it doesn't sound so bad does it.

Question, what if it isn't unlimited sharing or there are restrictions in who's able to play when. When does this program become "useful" for lack of a better word.



Max King of the Wild said:
kowenicki said:

Well, obviously.  This is part of the issue.  Then again, if I can share a game with 10 friends and they can share with me.... it doesn't sound so bad does it.

Question, what if it isn't unlimited sharing or there are restrictions in who's able to play when. When does this program become "useful" for lack of a better word.

Maybe 10 would be excessive, I suggested before it should be limited to 'Family sharing' so if you have a list of say 4 users as part of your family (like the pay once per console Gold thing), then they can use the game but only 1 at a time. So it's pretty much the same as sharing a game with friends by giving them the disc, while they have it you don't so you can't play it but it if has multiplayer and you want to play together, you both have to buy it.

However, as the console is no longer always online check stuff, how would it know if someone is playing it on one console already if they aren't connected to Live?



Hmm, pie.

The Fury said:
Max King of the Wild said:
kowenicki said:

Well, obviously.  This is part of the issue.  Then again, if I can share a game with 10 friends and they can share with me.... it doesn't sound so bad does it.

Question, what if it isn't unlimited sharing or there are restrictions in who's able to play when. When does this program become "useful" for lack of a better word.

Maybe 10 would be excessive, I suggested before it should be limited to 'Family sharing' so if you have a list of say 4 users as part of your family (like the pay once per console Gold thing), then they can use the game but only 1 at a time. So it's pretty much the same as sharing a game with friends by giving them the disc, while they have it you don't so you can't play it but it if has multiplayer and you want to play together, you both have to buy it.

However, as the console is no longer always online check stuff, how would it know if someone is playing it on one console already if they aren't connected to Live?


For this I assume it would need to be connected. Which is fine. And I doubt this would be unlimited sharing. So I guess to refine my question would be what are reasonable restrictions. For me, being online if you aren't the one who owns it is fine. But I doubt that would be it. I'd think there would be a friend limit and time limit which I would think would make or break the service 



But will it still contain a time limitation? After it got initialy cancelled an MS employee spilled the beans and shared details. Part of it stated that with family sharing you're friends and family could play you're game library but it hade a timecap on it, an hour or so i believe. Making it a glorified demo mode really.



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kowenicki said:
Make it digital only.

Solved.

Then those that argue for physical, physical, physical can follow the model, as demonstrated, of handing the disc over in person. The rest of us with digital content can move into the 21st century.

I don't see why it cant be digital only. Indeed, it should be digital only to force the issue. Yeah... I said it.

As Spencer said, they aren't just straight up implementing it for digital only because they feel that the people who already bought the physical copies without knowing digital copies would benefit from such features in the future would feel a bit cheated.

But honestly I'm sure they could figure out a way to give people the option to turn their physical copy into a digital one by having to do the 24 hour check if they want to do family sharing. This would move people over to digital altogether which would work out well for them. For those who don't want the family sharing and want to keep their physical copies without the online checks, they can do that as well. Everyone's happy and MS is swimming in cash.



 

kowenicki said:
Make it digital only.

Solved.

Then those that argue for physical, physical, physical can follow the model, as demonstrated, of handing the disc over in person. The rest of us with digital content can move into the 21st century.

I don't see why it cant be digital only. Indeed, it should be digital only to force the issue. Yeah... I said it.

Agreed.  This is a very simple fix that would encourage people to buy digital.



family sharing , ps had that for years,,ps3,psvita,ps4, i can share my game upto 2 sistems at the same time , so means that with a close friend we buy a game and i pay only $30 and can have the full game ,, and we can share ps+ to play online in 2 ps4s at the same time without use the same account ahahahha do u want more



The Fury said:
Puppyroach said:

Agreed. From the start, I decided to go all digital this generation, and for those stuck with bying physical copies, well they can blame themselves for not evolving. MS must push the digital alternative, but in a smoother way than last year :).

Dead Rising 3 on high street is £25 or so, on the Xbox Live store it's £50. Titanfall is £55 on live, high street is £20. Competative prices don't exist on their monopolied Xbox Store and therefore it's a ripoff to buy digital. They sort this out then maybe many of us will evolve.

Yeah, but that is kind of a seperate issue from Family Sharing. If the concept is as good as promised, paying those kinds of money isn´t that big of an issue. Also, the delas on XBL are comping in quite fast, so I still get deals that are comparable to the physical market, just not always on the games i prefer.



When/if it comes out its probably going to suck cause 3rd parties dont even want you sharing games physically. They dont even want you to watch videos of their games on youtube without getting a cut.



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