unit sales and installbase are entirely different. 

apple sold around half of the smartphones in one year,  does not mean that approximately half of the device users are running ios. 

http://www.macworld.com/article/1168219/survey_smartphone_growth_surging_in_japan_android_use_double_ios.html

do you think all these phones ceased to exist? 

and that is simply factoring in mobile handset sales,  when you factor in tablet sales the android vs ios rift widens with android tablets selling extremely well. 

but more to the point,  both ios ans android are extremely successful here,  which only serves to back up my original stance of mobile and tablet gaming being a major reason for japan moving away from dedicated gaming devices,  and that shift making sony and nintendo focus their sights on more receptive markets,  but thank you for going down the mobile argument avenue with me and admitted outright that japans propensity for app uaage and sales is higher than that of the US despite having one third of the population,  because that was the entire point to begin with. 

so in the end,  the answer to this thread is as i said,  simply 'no they have just shifted their focus to more receptive markets' 

Alright, thanks for the link. Good to know. 

And yes, both are dying, as I've already said. But it's not a question of IPs. Newer IPs like Ni no Kuni, Bravely Default, Yo-Kai Watch, etc are amazingly popular. It's just there isn't much support for them overal from the major devs, as even they have moved on from Japan, since both Sony and Nintendo have failed to appeal to the market there.

We simply don't see eye-to-eye here. iPad sales are also higher in Japan. Smartphones have seen the most growth during the boom of iOS, so it's a safe assumption to say that even factoring in older sales, iOS has near half of the marketshare, and will continue growing due to strong sales.

And my point isn't about the app usage at all. My point is that Sony and Nintendo's terrible support has resulted in Japan moving on to smartphones. 

your point is wrong.

Android was on top of IOS in Japan back in december 2011 - old graph but i'm guessing if anything android has increased market share in Japan since then.

I think Japan just abandoned home consoles all together. The PS4 and Wii U are doing pretty badly. I guess they don't want to focus too much attention and resources on a dying market, what with dating sims taking over and all.

Funny thing is Japans love for the iPhone is fast dwindling as of late, Ive been given (for free) so many iphones the past few weeks from people switching to android phones it's not even funny, two 4s's, 2 5's and a 5C. (5 total in about 6 weeks).

People just need to wait for TGS.

There are just not enough games that cater to the Japanese audience on the PS4 soon enough. Meanwhile, the PS3 is getting Kingdom Hearts 2.5HD, Tales of Zestiria, Atelier Shallie, and Persona 5. Kingdom Hearts III and Final Fantasy XV aren't enough, especially when they are far away from release. Bloodborne isn't enough because it's just one game when the Japanese audience are hungry to many more. Sony really needs to step it up if they want the PS4 to be successful in Japan.

They havnt abandoned Japanese gamers, they just dont have the money to develop core Japanese games, which is a shame.

Hopefully when they recuperate from their losses somewhat we will see some Japanese games.