The PS3 have sold 3,500,000 WW in 7 month. Have sold 80,000,000 fr now, and will sold 95,000,000 lifetime.

PS4 have sold 3,750,000 in 7 month in Nord America(more of PS3 global)... so, 70,000,000 isn't impossible.

I'm not talking about launch I'm talking about how sales have settled in now. Compare PS4's last 4 months in US to Wii, 360 and PS2 and it's on par with 360 and well behind Wii and PS2. I mean it can change either way yes, but right now looking at the data, PS4 had an amazing launch but sales have tapered off to below Wii/PS2 levels.

Also, whilst MS may not win US, they fight bloody hard for it, their efforts may not see them win/overtake or whatever but it will see sales of XB1 rather than PS4. When you compare to XB Vs PS2.

PS2 truly sold less than PS4... You have number of PS2?

Start cutting your quotes down.

And yes I do, first 6 months (includes a week of October for PS2)

PS4: 3.11m
PS2: 2.45m

First 4 months of first year.

PS4 (2014) = 1.11m
PS2 (2001) = 1.35m
Wii (2007) = 1.4m
360 (2006) = 0.9m

How in the fuck do i keep hearing x1 is doing better then 360 was, its dead in the water in most world markets and even losing in its home one. 

how far off PS2/wii is it ?

Lifetime XB1 is ahead of 360 but I agree, in US XB1 is falling below 360 on a monthly basis now. For instance 360 did 221k in its first May, XB1 will be 100k~, and June 360 did 277k which is the upper limit of what XB1 could achieve with the $399 sku.

90million? LOL where do people come up with these numbers. but to answer the question. Yes the two will simply becasue xone will do better than you think. And Wii U isnt putting up those numbers stop it.

One moment, you think XBOX ONE(Without Wii U) sell more of 3DS?

I'm leaning towards no.

3DS is tracking towards 80 million or so, I see XOne at 40-45 million and Wii U at 20 million ... that's quite short of the 3DS.

oh no, together they could outsell 3ds sure