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FromDK said:
Busted said:

This is a pointless question as i don't see what relation the Xb1+Wii U combo have with the 3DS so i'll asume it's just out of curiosity ^^ - The answer is: They'll be very very close
Aprox. Numbers (+/- 5 000 000 margin):
Wii U: 26 000 000
Xbox One: 45 000 000
Nintendo 3DS: 71 000 000

(Those are all Best Case Scenarios for each platform individually)

The way u see it..

I see it an other way.. (and i will also use a 5.000.000 margin)

WiiU: 80.000.000

XOne: 40.000.000

3DS: 85.000.000

(PS4 70.000.000)

So no I don't think 3ds will outsell WiiU Xone combined..

I know it don't look like that at the momment (other than WiiU outsell Xone) but think it will change the next months.. and WiiU will become best seller..  But this is just my predection.. no need to hate (the messenger)

Haha im not that kind of person, on the XB1 and 3DS front we pretty much agree, now about those Wii U sales i have to say that even being VERY VERY generous and(by) saying that the succesor will come out in 2018 i don't see any way possible that the Wii U can sell 20 million units every year for 4 straight years.



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Some you have to wake up...you constanly making the same mistake ...ds sold 153,99 as a series so 3ds will be above 100,million as a series, not as one console ,3ds xl 2ds aren't successors...so 3ds is still one handheld...2004-2011 seven years of ds ,so 2011-2018 of 3ds will be above 100million ,could be at 130million!



tak13 said:
Some you have to wake up...you constanly making the same mistake ...ds sold 153,99 as a series so 3ds will be above 100,million as a series, not as one console ,3ds xl 2ds aren't successors...so 3ds is still one handheld...2004-2011 seven years of ds ,so 2011-2018 of 3ds will be above 100million ,could be at 130million!


I agree with you that the people are much peximist, but 130,000,000 is relly much...

The new console i think coming in 2018, so you agree.

But, for me 3DS sell:

2014: 13,000,000 (55,000,000)

2015: 11,000,000 (66,000,000)

2016: 9,000,000 (75,000,000)

2017: 7,000,000 (82,000,000)

2018: 5,000,000 (87,000,000)

2019-2020: 3,000,000 (90,000,000)

...So IMHO, best scenario for 3DS is a 100,000,000.



shikamaru317 said:
tak13 said:
Some you have to wake up...you constanly making the same mistake ...ds sold 153,99 as a series so 3ds will be above 100,million as a series, not as one console ,3ds xl 2ds aren't successors...so 3ds is still one handheld...2004-2011 seven years of ds ,so 2011-2018 of 3ds will be above 100million ,could be at 130million!

I honestly don't see Nintendo keeping the 3DS as their main handheld until 2018, it's primary competition (smartphones/tablets) will be light years ahead graphically by that point. Nintendo will release a succesor to the 3DS by Holiday 2015, sales of the 3DS will get a boost from a price drop for about a year after that, and then they'll drop off alot. 75 million lifetime tops. 

Just because the DS did exceptionally well does not mean that the 3DS will as well. The 3DS is already 20 million units behind the DS in the same time period: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251620/3ds-vs-dsvgchartz-gap-chartsapril-2014-update/

Really you think the 4DS comin on the end of 2015?????

Oh please, you is not seen NOTING in this E3, and for 3DS coming this year new Pokémon, Bravely Second, Moster Hunter 4G, Smash Bros, and much other games...

So, this prediction is impossible.

The new DS will coming minimum 2016, and for me in 2018.



You're about 20 million too high for WiiU and about 10 million too low for Xbox One. WiiU has sold 6 million consoles in 1 1/2 years. It is not going to sell another 34 million in the next 4. Nintendo stops supporting their consoles before the new ones even launch. Wii was dead before WiiU even came out. I'm being generous saying the WiiU will sell for another 4.



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MDMAlliance said:
FromDK said:
Busted said:

This is a pointless question as i don't see what relation the Xb1+Wii U combo have with the 3DS so i'll asume it's just out of curiosity ^^ - The answer is: They'll be very very close

Aprox. Numbers (+/- 5 000 000 margin):

Wii U: 26 000 000
Xbox One: 45 000 000
Nintendo 3DS: 71 000 000

(Those are all Best Case Scenarios for each platform individually)

The way u see it..

I see it an other way.. (and i will also use a 5.000.000 margin)

WiiU: 80.000.000

XOne: 40.000.000

3DS: 85.000.000

(PS4 70.000.000)

So no I don't think 3ds will outsell WiiU Xone combined..

I know it don't look like that at the momment (other than WiiU outsell Xone) but think it will change the next months.. and WiiU will become best seller..  But this is just my predection.. no need to hate (the messenger)


How exactly is the Wii U going to sell 80m?

This is how.. (or what i hope/believe)

The casuals.. The ones that just wanna have fun, and new experinces.. mostly kids (boys and girls) and familys, the ones that look more at price and games/apps, before brand and specs

The casuals has not yet enteret this generation.. Last gen Wii got a lot of them.. (back from ps2, who got almost all casuals with, eyetoy, singstar, buzz and G hero)

I don't know how many there are left (there are more casuals.. but also a lots of other "consoles" and way to game now) But it should be over 80 mill left for "the big 3"

That means.. +80 mill consoles will be sold 2014-2018.. (to people who not even nowing they will buy it) the casuals.. who people here offen not counting.. And they start comming now

To this croud.. the casuals.. Nintendo by fare has the best offer

The cheapest price.. a lot of fun games.. HD (and better than ever) Donkey, mario, zelda, mariokart, wii-fit, wii-sports.. much more.. AND a nice "off tv play-gyro aimer-mario stage making-mab viewing-amiibo combitabel-netflix controller lag free second screen

They have just showed "Mario maker" and "project guard" two games that both has "brain traning" potentialle.. And still we know there will be more, of theese types of games (brilliant.. made for Upad.. family fun games)

Lastly.. To the Normal nintendo fan.. it also starts now.. I'm a very big fan.. but I do not own a WiiU.. why.. I love nintendo.. but Mario 3d and donkeykong.. :( I was kind of bored.. (and do not have a lots of money) Now that Mariokart is here.. I get a WiiU.. There are infact 5 games i Want to play now.. Mariokart, Mario maker, Splatoon, Devils third and Toad..  There are a lot like me.. now Nintendo are talking.. now we find the money

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That is the main reason.. And it makes perfect sense for me

forgive my spelling. i'm danish



tuscaniman99 said:
You're about 20 million too high for WiiU and about 10 million too low for Xbox One. WiiU has sold 6 million consoles in 1 1/2 years. It is not going to sell another 34 million in the next 4. Nintendo stops supporting their consoles before the new ones even launch. Wii was dead before WiiU even came out. I'm being generous saying the WiiU will sell for another 4.


For me 20,000,000 is a less... I think that Wii D coming in 2018, and Wii U deat on 2020, like GC(coming in 2001, deat in 2009)

So, if sold:

2014: 6,000,000 (10,400,000)

2015: 8,500,000 (19,900,000)

2016: 7,100,000 (27,000,000)

2017: 5,200,000 (32,200,000)

2018: 4,000,000 (36,200,000)

2019-2020: 3,800,000 (40,000,000)

Don't outsell XBOX ONE, but for me XBOX ONE don't sell much more of Wii U.



shikamaru317 said:
drake_tolu said:

Really you think the 4DS comin on the end of 2015?????

Oh please, you is not seen NOTING in this E3, and for 3DS coming this year new Pokémon, Bravely Second, Moster Hunter 4G, Smash Bros, and much other games...

So, this prediction is impossible.

The new DS will coming minimum 2016, and for me in 2018.

On second thought, Holiday 2015 isn't that likely, but I think early-mid 2016 is a definite possibility at this point. The 3DS is already starting to lag behind even budget smartphones/tablets graphically, and I've noticed that more and more kids want a smartphone or tablet to game on nowadays than a handheld (kids were the main driving force behind the DS's astounding sales). The market is changing and it will likely force Nintendo to shorten their handheld lifecycles.

And I agree that the 3DS has an awesome slate of 2014 releases that will likely give it a decent boost this year. Still though, even with the boost from those releases, I can't see the 3DS selling more than about 7 million this year, unless Nintendo announes a price drop before the Holiday season. The 3DS has only sold 2.4m so far this year afterall.


Start 2016 maybe... but 7,000,000 of 3DS for this year is a bad prediction.

Have sold 2,500,000, and with new version, and Pokémon/Moster Hunter/Smash Bros, and with Black Friday/Chrismas minimu 10,000,000 this year... and i think 13,000,000.



shikamaru317 said:
tak13 said:
Some you have to wake up...you constanly making the same mistake ...ds sold 153,99 as a series so 3ds will be above 100,million as a series, not as one console ,3ds xl 2ds aren't successors...so 3ds is still one handheld...2004-2011 seven years of ds ,so 2011-2018 of 3ds will be above 100million ,could be at 130million!

I honestly don't see Nintendo keeping the 3DS as their main handheld until 2018, it's primary competition (smartphones/tablets) will be light years ahead graphically by that point. Nintendo will probably release a succesor to the 3DS by early 2016, sales of the 3DS will get a boost from a price drop for about a year after that, and then they'll drop off alot. 75 million lifetime tops. 

Just because the DS did exceptionally well does not mean that the 3DS will as well. The 3DS is already 20+ million units behind the DS within the same time period and the DS's lead continues to grow: http://www.vgchartz.com/article/251620/3ds-vs-dsvgchartz-gap-chartsapril-2014-update/



that's the mistake i aforesaid ...what do you   mean ?The 3DS is already 20+ million units behind the DS within the same time period and the DS's lead continues grows ?3ds third year aligns to ds lite...dont compare the whole series of hanheld with one! yes my dear nintendo will release 3dsi or 3dslite or something by 2015 no 2016 it too late according with nintendo s tradition!3ds has won dsi and ds but losing from dslite ...3ds will last 7 years ,rember  handhelds are series!



drake_tolu said:
shikamaru317 said:
drake_tolu said:

Really you think the 4DS comin on the end of 2015?????

Oh please, you is not seen NOTING in this E3, and for 3DS coming this year new Pokémon, Bravely Second, Moster Hunter 4G, Smash Bros, and much other games...

So, this prediction is impossible.

The new DS will coming minimum 2016, and for me in 2018.

On second thought, Holiday 2015 isn't that likely, but I think early-mid 2016 is a definite possibility at this point. The 3DS is already starting to lag behind even budget smartphones/tablets graphically, and I've noticed that more and more kids want a smartphone or tablet to game on nowadays than a handheld (kids were the main driving force behind the DS's astounding sales). The market is changing and it will likely force Nintendo to shorten their handheld lifecycles.

And I agree that the 3DS has an awesome slate of 2014 releases that will likely give it a decent boost this year. Still though, even with the boost from those releases, I can't see the 3DS selling more than about 7 million this year, unless Nintendo announes a price drop before the Holiday season. The 3DS has only sold 2.4m so far this year afterall.


Start 2016 maybe... but 7,000,000 of 3DS for this year is a bad prediction.

Have sold 2,500,000, and with new version, and Pokémon/Moster Hunter/Smash Bros, and with Black Friday/Chrismas minimu 10,000,000 this year... and i think 13,000,000.

by 2018 nintendo would have released the  successor of 3ds successor!2004-2006 ds 2006-2009 dslite 2009-2011 dsi/xl...