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Is Multiplats At First Party Conferences A Good Thing

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RolStoppable said:
Pristine20 said:
RolStoppable said:

Well, multiplats certainly aren't interesting games, so they are a waste of time.

The question that people are asking is "Why should I buy a Nintendo console?", multiplatform games would only matter if someone asked "Why should a Nintendo console be the only one I'll buy this generation?", but hardly anybody does that.

What? The only question I've ever asked was "does this console have a lot of games I'm interested in?" that's about it. Why are multiplats uninteresting? Not sure if I get the logic...

If people really feel the way you do, it's no wonder this console war BS is so prevalent

What do multiplatform games mean for your question in regards to a Nintendo presentation? I am pretty sure it's irrelevance.

Picture this situation: I'm a gamer who really likes his COD (spend 75% of my gametime on it) and Mass effect but have an interest in Mario, Zelda and Smash from childhood fondness. I only have money for one console. Won't the Wii U make the most sense to me since it has my primary game which is multiplat along with other games I'm interested in?

Matter of fact, most people I know are like this  not necessarily interested in exclusives. My former roommate is a more casual gamer who owns a 360 and every single game he owns  is multiplat. His favorite series is Assasin's Creed, a multiplat series. Never asked him why he bought a 360 in particular but it seems like he just got it originally because it was cheaper.



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PlaysWithSquirrels said:
I 100% think it's a bad thing. Every time Microsoft or Sony revealed a multiplat at their conference, it did nothing for me . I don't care that you have exclusive content for a multiplat, I care about what games you have that other systems don't.

I found myself extremely annoyed with Sony this year. Multiplat after multiplat after multiplat. Ffs, they opened up with Destiny, a multiplat. The exclusives they did show (aside from Bloodborne) bored me.


I don't know man. They're not advertising to only you. Many people bought 360s last gen because they legit think it's only available on xbox. You just don't see these types on gaming sites.



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It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

It is very important to show off 3rd party games. The majority of people do not visit forums or gaming sites. They either see ads on facebook, or TV, or they hear news from friends/family/co-workers.

Things like to GTA5 announcment at Sony's press conference get posted on the front page of Yahoo, Google News, Comcast, etc. Now the majority of people know that Sony announces GTA5 coming to PS4 this fall. These people don't click the link, they don't research, they don't know it is coming to XBO and PC as well. This is a huge advantage for Sony. On the other side of the table you have Call of Duty playing the same role for MS.

The point is, whether 3rd party, 2nd party, indie, or in house. When you can associate your platform with the most popular Games/franchises, good is all that can come from it.



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I dont gauge if a conference was good or bad based on multiplats they show, but I do apreciate seeing them. Hypotethically speaking, if Sony had shown 10 multiplats games and 1 good exclusive and Ms had shown 0 multiplats and 3 good exclusives Id say Ms conference was the best, but that I had fun watching Sonys conf.



RolStoppable said:
Pristine20 said:

Picture this situation: I'm a gamer who really likes his COD (spend 75% of my gametime on it) and Mass effect but have an interest in Mario, Zelda and Smash from childhood fondness. I only have money for one console. Won't the Wii U make the most sense to me since it has my primary game which is multiplat along with other games I'm interested in?

Matter of fact, most people I know are like this  not necessarily interested in exclusives. My former roommate is a more casual gamer who owns a 360 and every single game he owns  is multiplat. His favorite series is Assasin's Creed, a multiplat series. Never asked him why he bought a 360 in particular but it seems like he just got it originally because it was cheaper.

No, the Wii U won't make the most sense in that particular case (which hardly qualifies for being a common scenario), because Activision has made it a habit to not confirm the existence of CoD on a Nintendo console until after E3, so CoD will not show up in a Nintendo presentation at E3 even if Nintendo wanted to show it.

I did not say the scenario was common. It's hypothetical. However, note that this situation is only "uncommon" because of nintendo's approach with the Wii. Most COD fanatics now know ninty's system is not the right place to go.

I could repeat the same example by skipping 2 gens back. Imagine a gamer looking to choose between PS2/xbox/Gc after the Dreamcast expired. The person really loves Soul Blade/Soul Calibur on dreamcast and wants to play the sequel. He also likes nintendo's traditional offerings from owning a SNES in the past. Do you see how said individual would lean towards a GC in that gen if ninty advertised SCII with link? I don't see how this is so hard to understand especially when you're talking about just the PS4/XB1.

For M$ and Sony, confirming the presence of multiplats is very important. It's pretty hard to dispute that. I for one was just glad to new gameplay for many multiplats but many on this site just seem to only be interested in console war ammunition.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

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KBG29 said:
It is very important to show off 3rd party games. The majority of people do not visit forums or gaming sites. They either see ads on facebook, or TV, or they hear news from friends/family/co-workers.

Things like to GTA5 announcment at Sony's press conference get posted on the front page of Yahoo, Google News, Comcast, etc. Now the majority of people know that Sony announces GTA5 coming to PS4 this fall. These people don't click the link, they don't research, they don't know it is coming to XBO and PC as well. This is a huge advantage for Sony. On the other side of the table you have Call of Duty playing the same role for MS.

The point is, whether 3rd party, 2nd party, indie, or in house. When you can associate your platform with the most popular Games/franchises, good is all that can come from it.

^This. Someone get's it.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

mZuzek said:
I think it's bad because it loses the focus. What's the point in showing off a game for your console if everyone knows it's also going to be in the competition's hardware?

The way I see it, if Microsoft is having a conference to show off the Xbox One, their objective is to make people want to buy an Xbox One, especially in this early stage of a new generation. If I watch a conference where they mostly show stuff that the PlayStation 4 also has - and more importantly, even last-gen systems and PC have -, it won't get me interested at all.

Third parties also have their conferences and places to show off what they're doing, that's where multiplatforms belong. The console manufacturers need to focus on what they have that others don't.

Not all 3rd parties are big enough to have their own conferences. I see it's mostly ninty fans that seem to feel multiplats are unneccesary. Makes sense.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler

Pristine20 said:
RolStoppable said:
Pristine20 said:
RolStoppable said:

Well, multiplats certainly aren't interesting games, so they are a waste of time.

The question that people are asking is "Why should I buy a Nintendo console?", multiplatform games would only matter if someone asked "Why should a Nintendo console be the only one I'll buy this generation?", but hardly anybody does that.

What? The only question I've ever asked was "does this console have a lot of games I'm interested in?" that's about it. Why are multiplats uninteresting? Not sure if I get the logic...

If people really feel the way you do, it's no wonder this console war BS is so prevalent

What do multiplatform games mean for your question in regards to a Nintendo presentation? I am pretty sure it's irrelevance.

Picture this situation: I'm a gamer who really likes his COD (spend 75% of my gametime on it) and Mass effect but have an interest in Mario, Zelda and Smash from childhood fondness. I only have money for one console. Won't the Wii U make the most sense to me since it has my primary game which is multiplat along with other games I'm interested in?

Matter of fact, most people I know are like this  not necessarily interested in exclusives. My former roommate is a more casual gamer who owns a 360 and every single game he owns  is multiplat. His favorite series is Assasin's Creed, a multiplat series. Never asked him why he bought a 360 in particular but it seems like he just got it originally because it was cheaper.

I agree with you here, multiplatform games are the best selling games, people don't care if there on othere consoles, as long as they can play it on the console they own, so they don't have to make anothere investment on different hardware.



RolStoppable said:
Pristine20 said:

I did not say the scenario was common. It's hypothetical. However, note that this situation is only "uncommon" because of nintendo's approach with the Wii U. Most COD fanatics now know ninty's system is not the right place to go.

I could repeat the same example by skipping 2 gens back. Imagine a gamer looking to choose between PS2/xbox/Gc after the Dreamcast expired. The person really loves Soul Blade/Soul Calibur on dreamcast and wants to play the sequel. He also likes nintendo's traditional offerings from owning a SNES in the past. Do you see how said individual would lean towards a GC in that gen if ninty advertised SCII with link? I don't see how this is so hard to understand especially when you're talking about just the PS4/XB1.

For M$ and Sony, confirming the presence of multiplats is very important. It's pretty hard to dispute that. I for one was just glad to new gameplay for many multiplats but many on this site just seem to only be interested in console war ammunition.

Wrong. Nintendo's approach with the Wii U was to show off all multiplatform games that they expected to be coming. At E3 2012 they couldn't show CoD: BO2 because Activision had not confirmed it to be available on the Wii U, even though it was clearly in development.

The Soul Calibur II example is better because it's realistic. It's also what Nintendo did back in the day, but GC sales show that the criteria you set are far from common. Why should a device that is intended for the massmarket focus on a tiny minority? It doesn't make sense, hence why Nintendo's time is better spent by showing off interesting games.

Of course the situation is different for Sony and Microsoft, but I never said otherwise.

the only games that selling great from nintendo have mario in the title, nothing else is really selling great, most of those games they showed at E3 will flop, even zelda will turn off many people cause of its anime look, and probaby sell the same as sky ward sword.



RolStoppable said:
Pristine20 said:

I did not say the scenario was common. It's hypothetical. However, note that this situation is only "uncommon" because of nintendo's approach with the Wii U. Most COD fanatics now know ninty's system is not the right place to go.

I could repeat the same example by skipping 2 gens back. Imagine a gamer looking to choose between PS2/xbox/Gc after the Dreamcast expired. The person really loves Soul Blade/Soul Calibur on dreamcast and wants to play the sequel. He also likes nintendo's traditional offerings from owning a SNES in the past. Do you see how said individual would lean towards a GC in that gen if ninty advertised SCII with link? I don't see how this is so hard to understand especially when you're talking about just the PS4/XB1.

For M$ and Sony, confirming the presence of multiplats is very important. It's pretty hard to dispute that. I for one was just glad to new gameplay for many multiplats but many on this site just seem to only be interested in console war ammunition.

Wrong. Nintendo's approach with the Wii U was to show off all multiplatform games that they expected to be coming. At E3 2012 they couldn't show CoD: BO2 because Activision had not confirmed it to be available on the Wii U, even though it was clearly in development.

The Soul Calibur II example is better because it's realistic. It's also what Nintendo did back in the day, but GC sales show that the criteria you set are far from common. Why should a device that is intended for the massmarket focus on a tiny minority? It doesn't make sense, hence why Nintendo's time is better spent by showing off interesting games.

Of course the situation is different for Sony and Microsoft, but I never said otherwise.

I edited my post to say Wii not Wii U before you posted because it was with the Wii that ninty's stopped getting multiplats completely. That was when they decided to focus on casuals which worked for them no doubt. However, their approach so far with the Wii U has being to recall the more traditional gamers, don't forget that.

Nintendo's current approach makes sense because they don't even have multiplats to show for the most part even if they wanted to. However, the OP specifically mention Sony and M$ which was why I originally responded to the thread. When you said multiplats don't matter, you should've said that you were only talking about the Wii U. Multiplats definitely matter on PS4/XB1 and I don't see how anyone can say they should be absent from sony and microsoft's conferences.



"Dr. Tenma, according to you, lives are equal. That's why I live today. But you must have realised it by now...the only thing people are equal in is death"---Johann Liebert (MONSTER)

"WAR is a racket. It always has been.

It is possibly the oldest, easily the most profitable, surely the most vicious. It is the only one international in scope. It is the only one in which the profits are reckoned in dollars and the losses in lives"---Maj. Gen. Smedley Butler