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bigtakilla on 14 June 2014
oniyide said:

bigtakilla said:

 Bayo 1, 2, and The Devil's Third prove that among other already released games). 

see thats it that doesnt really prove anything. Lets be real those games you mentioned are very niche, so the general gaming pop either doesnt even know or care. That doesnt prove anything. its not about M rated its about blockbusters. Bayo and devils 3rd are in no way blockbusters. where is the Batman? Destiny? Assassin's Creed? Tomb Raider? etc? no where to be found. But IMHO it dont matter that much, because i think it really comes down to an image problem. Even when the systems gets those games they bomb terrible or do mediocore. YOu only have to look at AC and COD sales on Wii U.

Doesn't stop Ninty from having Mature games. I guess "must have" is negotiable, but when the two biggest XBone titles are Destiny and Scalebound (which are also 2 new IP's) I still think Nintendo is giving the fans something equivalent. (Or in my eyes better, which is yet again opinion.)



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Fusioncode on 14 June 2014
Soundwave said:

I'm more satisfied with where Nintendo is at now ... Hyrule Warriors looks great, Bayonetta 2 looks great, Splatoon looks great and is actually a new IP, Mario Maker is a great idea, Devil's Third needs time but has potential. Star Fox is back too, maybe F-Zero or Wave Race could reappear at some point.

I hope we can actually get Fatal Frame U in the West this time around too. 

I hope they can gain some traction now, I am noticing the Mario Kart 8 bundle has sold well, a Smash bundle in November with some limited edition amiibos should help them a lot.

I have never seen you this positive about Nintendo before. They must have really impressed you at E3. 



Sigs are dumb. And so are you!

DonFerrari on 14 June 2014

The best part is to say that Nintendo is closer to Sony on LTD than MS is to Nintendo while the numbers would be PS4 = WiiU +1.8M = (X1+1.8M)+1.8M... meaning that the difference between PS4 and WiiU is equal to X1 to WiiU and worst is that X1 is closing the distance to WiiU and PS4 is pulling from it, so that is even more idiotic than say the race is close...

Maybe he is using Formula 1 terms... At then end of a F1 race (1h30 duration) the first place is "close to the last place" even if he laps him twice (let's say a 3 min advantage in a 90 min race is 3,33% difference)... for someone looking at the "total time" the last place doesn't seem to have done so bad, but for anyone with half a brain, he can say that the race was a no contest.

Imagine now putting in F1 terms the difference WiiU and PS4 have... let's say 90 min to make the 60 laps is equal to WiiU 6.3 M in sales... so PS4 would be 70 min to make the race meaning that WiiU would basically be 13 laps lagging. If we remember that Nintendo took 16 months to make the race to 6M and Sony took 4 months, we would see that actually every lap Nintendo gives in the track, Sony already finished 4. So there is no way to think "WiiU LTD is close to PS4 LTD" while ignoring everything.

Next comment will be that Wii LTD is close to PS LTD, so WiiU and PS4 are selling about the same.



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Blood_Tears on 14 June 2014
padib said:

He's not right, but it's not a moronic comment. Relatively speaking, the life to date numbers are between PS4 and WiiU is an equal distance as WiiU to X1.

And the current trends could change anytime.

If his point is that the U is leading the X1, then he is correct.

Of course if this were a Sony PR spokesperson we wouldn't want him fired but would be praising him as usual.


You obviously don't remember the PR blunder of Sony last gen and how they got called out on everything. The last part of your post makes you sound very bitter.



Egann on 14 June 2014

It really depends on how much of the Mario Kart/ E3 inertia the Wii U keeps and how much the X1 recovers when the kinect is unbundled. 

Two things must happen at the same time for the X1 to catch up to the Wii U's sales numbers.

  1. The Wii U must lose at least 50% of the inertia it has from Mario Kart and E3.
  2. The Xbox 1 must gain at least 50% more sales than it was pushing before the unbundling.
A fall after Mario Kart is certain, as is a boost in sales with unbundling, but the extent makes this reasonably unlikely to happen. I think Reggie is right and Nintendo will solidify their position in second place, but it's really too early to tell.


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eFKac on 14 June 2014
padib said:

He's not right, but it's not a moronic comment. Relatively speaking, the life to date numbers are between PS4 and WiiU is an equal distance as WiiU to X1.

And the current trends could change anytime.

If his point is that the U is leading the X1, then he is correct.

Of course if this were a Sony PR spokesperson we wouldn't want him fired but would be praising him as usual.


You just can't help yourself with the constant Sony jabs, and those imaginary double standards comments, can you?



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

DarkD on 14 June 2014

why are you even replying to this topic. Reggie is just doing his job in staying positive about the Wii U. ITS HIS JOB TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT IT!!!! Anyone who's questioning why he said what he did is an idiot... What else is he gonna say...

 

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eFKac on 14 June 2014
padib said:
eFKac said:

You just can't help yourself with the constant Sony jabs, and those imaginary double standards comments, can you?

There are too many haters, if they would stop, maybe I would chill a little.

But almost every thread you go to, there is at least one person hating on Nintendo. I believe the double-standards are a reality and I want people to see it.

The way people are reacting to Reggie's comment in this thread is unacceptable, imho. Blown way out of proportion.

Fighting hate with hate? I don't know how successful will that be honestly.

How about, when you see someone actually having double standards, quote them, call them out and let them burn, not this kind of bs you are pulling now. "Ohh no! Someone is mean to Nintendo, I'm an angrydolphin so I will overgeneralise and say Sony fans have double standards without any proof!"

How it looks now, at least for me, is that, to paraphrase you, almost every bad Nintendo news thread you go to, there is at least one person hating on Sony, and it's usually the same person.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

eFKac on 14 June 2014
padib said:
eFKac said:

Fighting hate with hate? I don't know how successful will that be honestly.

How about, when you see someone actually having double standards, quote them, call them out and let them burn, not this kind of bs you are pulling now. "Ohh no! Someone is mean to Nintendo, I'm an angrydolphin so I will overgeneralise and say Sony fans have double standards without any proof!"

How it looks now, at least for me, is that, to paraphrase you, almost every bad Nintendo news thread you go to, there is at least one person hating on Sony, and it's usually the same person.

I am not hating on Sony. I am hating on people who refuse to use reason and let their emotions dictate their opinions on the opposite company.

When I post in a Sony thread, I don't do that.

For example, some guy posted the other day that Sony did a good move by planning to release games for all genres during the holidays. I made a positive comments saying that it is for sure a good move. That shows that I'm not a hater.

So I'm not hating on Sony, I'm really hating on some of their fans at this point whom I really can't stand anymore.

But if you think your way is better, then I will try it. For instance, I can go in the type-0 thread and ask "Yo Oniyide, yo Captain_tom where you at?"

Please do, I would appreciate it if you would slightly change your current behaviour.

I won't argue your previous paragraphs, as I think we are going out of the topic too much, will just say I disagree with your hater and non-hater description.

I'm out.



So it is happening...PS4 preorder.

Greatness Awaits!

MoHasanie on 14 June 2014
DarkD said:
why are you even replying to this topic. Reggie is just doing his job in staying positive about the Wii U. ITS HIS JOB TO BE POSITIVE ABOUT IT!!!! Anyone who's questioning why he said what he did is an idiot... What else is he gonna say...

Um, what he said makes him look like an idiot. Plus its obvious it won't be a three horse race this gen. Only PS4 will do exceptionally well with the other 2 doing much worse. 



    

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