Yes, because we all know that online functionality is what makes GTA so popular.

Sadly, no MP and crap frame rate WAS Activision putting in an effort. Look at some of the other games from third parties at the time. And the lack of CoD4 was a contributing factor; so was the fact that WaW lacked the big added appeal of the Zombie mode, etc. Each and every CoD since CoD3 has been lacking in functionality on the Wii compared with other versions, and none of it had anything to do with lack of capability of the system, because later ones introduced the functionality that was missing in earlier ones... while missing the new functionality. Every one of them has lacked DLC, with the first game to actually get DLC content at all being CoD: Ghosts, and that was only made available about 6 months after release (and without being announced ahead of time), when it was a pre-order bonus on the other systems.

Oh, and they also didn't actually advertise any except CoD3 and WaW, and WaW was only advertised during Nintendo's E3 presentation.

I don't cherry pick the games that sold well. My argument isn't that all games sell well on Nintendo systems. My argument is that SOME games sell well on Nintendo systems, and that genre isn't the restricting factor. To demonstrate that, I merely have to provide examples of it. It is *not* cherry picking to provide evidence of existence by giving examples of existence. What *is* cherrypicking is to declare nonexistence by rejecting every example of existence for nonsensical reasons, or declaring that there's no market for a genre because some games in that genre sold poorly (especially if you don't pay attention to things like advertising, features, etc, when examining it).

The FACT is that games of this sort CAN sell well on Nintendo systems. That is irrefutable, given that there are plenty of examples of it. The assertion that was made was that GTA has not been tested on the system, to which it was claimed that there was "plenty of evidence" that games like GTA could not possibly sell well on the system... which is false, as I have demonstrated.

Now, if you have nothing except bad logic (on your part) to base your dismissal of my arguments on, then I have no reason to continue arguing with you.

So you're saying there's far better quality FPS titles on the other systems... and that doesn't explain the low performance of FPS on the Wii?

It is! Throw money at a comapany and then they become your slaves!

No, Nintendo can't QUICKLY drop by the store and buy more beer for the party. The store will not have WiiU-3rd-party-beer in stock, the breweries (EA, Activision, Blizzard, Ubisoft, Take 2...) have stopped producing that beer.

Even if Nintendo buys a smaller brewery (SEGA, Capcom, Konami...), they will not have the right kind of beer instantly. The restrucuring to WiiU-beer and the brewing process would take much time, especially if they want to brew high quality beer.

Hmmm...I think you've highlighted the problem right here. What you listed weren't just Nintendo's most anticipated games of 2015, but pretty much Nintendo's only games of 2015.

Although the forums on here would give you the illusion that people only care about exclusives, the truth is everyones taste varies so much you need more then just 6 great games per year. Its kinda like the way people spent all that time argueing titanfall vs Infamous, and then suddenly watchdogs (a game on both system) just comes and shits on both Titanfall and Infamous's openning week sales. Whilst everyone here is counting exclusives, Destiny, Witcher 3 and Batman will completely destroy everything besides maybe Halo Master chief collection...

To clarify its very difficult for first party studios alone to deliver the range of experiences that will appeal to a broad demographic, so typically this kind of line up only appeals to Nintendo's core. As a whole you have occasional mega sellers (Mario, Halo, The last of Us) but between that you need all the diversity that comes from 3rd parties. Just take me for example, the only games that appeal to me are Zelda and Yoshi... Now if you added Witcher 3, Batman and Final Fantasy Type 0 HD that would become a far more compelling list in my eyes and worthy of a console purchase for sure!

Now this leads me onto the second point. Even If Witcher and Batman were on the Wii U, it wouldn't be my ideal platform for those titles because of its weaker hardware. So its a pickle really, Nintendo kinda does need 3rd parties to achieve bigger sales, but even if they had them, they wouldn't necessarily do that well on the system.

But maybe you're talking consumer satisfaction and not sales? In which case I would only be satisfied with a Wii U long term is if it was secondary console. Only someone who found every Nintendo exclusive compelling would see it as a suitable primary system, whereas there are people who love their ps3's and 360's but have never even touched an exclusive.

Their next system needs to be called the n64 Ultra or something lol

They had 3rd party support before like Mass Effect, Assassin's Creed, Rayman, Sonic, Just Dance, Call of Duty, Batman, Splinter Cell, and Resident Evil. What games made the console increase last year? Pikmin 3, WindWaker HD, and 3D World. 3rd party is literally useless for Nintendo. That's notsaying games like Just Dance and Sonic can't help themselves on Nintendo, but honestly they do littlefor the platform.

Pikmin 3 made the WiiU-sales increase?

Weekly hardware sales last July & August: 37k, 30k, 29k, 27k, 32k, 29k, 24k, 22k... where was the Pikmin-boost?

I do not often buy 3rd party games on Nintendo systems but all my friends would do. Without large support they are not interested in getting the system at all. They want to play Skyrim, GTA, Farcry, Final Fantasy, Dark Souls and No Man's Sky.

The Wii-U could be much more competitive with a large 3rd party library and would not be perceived as a kids only system for children only. The Wii-U sales are so extremely bad because of the lack of games (other reasons are the tablet and the ultra-weak hardware specs) and lack of games means lack of choices and variety.

GTA's online features have become a large factor for the games's replay value. Not only for the increasingly popular gameplay features, but because of the social factor. But I guess you're the one who decides which missing features are unnecessary and which missing features makes the port noticeably inferior to the other versions.

Still, you're missing the whole point. People who are interested in GTA are often also interested in online-heavy games like Call of Duty, Battlefield, Halo, Killzone etc.. And if they get to choose they will purchase the console that allows them to play those games as well as GTA. Buying a Wii U separately for GTA makes no sense, especially if you're not interested in Nintendo titles.