Again you and other's are qute clearly getting the the Idea just because they take the name "Vita" out of this "Playstation TV" that it somehow some way = they are giving up on the PSVita,?

Its not being marketed to the same product that the playstation vita was , and that was the dedicated handheld market which shows that the majority of that market share is Nintendo's, Sony is 2nd place for market share in that part of the market so instead of trying to gain what little bit of share is left on that market Sony decided to expand the playstation Vita "PLATFORM" into other markets that would allow more growth, one where Nintendo and Microsoft are not even in that part of the market, So than some would say but then they are facing Apple and Amazon tv ..and Yeah so what if Sony is, both those companies are worth much more than Sony just like Microsoft is now but yet Sony is selling more systems Month to month than Microsoft so  really anything could happen in the market.

"Vita TV is a half-assed product that will do close to nothing on the market"

THE SAME THING WAS STATED ABOUT SONY'S chance with the PS4 NEW SYSTEM AGAINST MICROSOFTS NEW  XBOXONE SYSTEM IN nORTH aMERICA AND WE KNOW HOW THAT IS TURNING OUT RIGHT NOW! MANY ON THIS VERY BOARD STATED THAT sONY WOULD HAVE THE UPHILL CLIMB THAT MICROSOFT HAS THE ADVANTAGE.

The fact that unlike Amazon Fire TV, OR Apple TV they do not have 1st party studios to back such a product like Sony does with exclusive content, ithese other boxes may have streaming functionality, but  so does the Playstation TV ,that functionality involves PS1,PS2,PS3 AND EVEN ps4 GAMES TO A LITTLE $99.00 BOX.

Yes Apple has iOS, and Amazon has their ver of Android, But Sony's is not trying to compete on App;s its making game streaming viable like Netflicks does with Movies Sony is doing with game streaming. with the added bonus the more playstation TVs that sell the increase software support viability for a PSVita or Hell any "type" of PSVita will grow. its about the number's and Sony is trying to gather More PSVita's in the market is if that means making sure that PSVita is "playstation TV" in order to kick start more west centric game developers into making more software than So be it.

Suport for the playstation TV means by default Support for a standard PSVita because the playstation TV is a  "PSVita"

YOU DO NOT THINK THAT THE STANDARD PSVITA WILL NOT BENEFIT FROM AN INCREASE IN INSTALL BASE? 

Remember once again its called "Playstation TV" for  REASON WHICH SOUNDS BETTER TO PROMOTE 

Playstation Vita TV

OR 

JUST

Playstation TV

Has Sony's Marketing department better than say 3 or 4 years ago now? i would say without a shadow of a doubt it is, and they are going to market the hell out of this thing.

A Micro-game console brand new release for only $99.00 with a backcatalog of so many games over 1000! and you do not think its going to make any sort of impact in the market? well we will see won't we.

Well, Apple has sold over 25 million AppleTVs so far, over 8 million units last year alone: http://www.asymco.com/2014/03/02/the-billion-dollar-hobby/

I don't see that potential for the PS-TV-box, but even 1 million per year would help the Vita hardware base. And if Sony includes it in the more expensive Bravia-models, that would be great!

Some would say yes to your question any way you care to frame it. Your kinda lowballing the 3DS's ltd sales aren't you a little? 60m? come on its going to hit at least 75-80 million.

That's the high end of the spectrum.  60-80m LTD for sure.  It's only at 43 lol, so I could easily see it tail off and stop at 60m.

Even the 3DS runs very badly and currently looses 3rd party support. There seems to be no future for handheld gaming without a mobile phone or tablet, the market is nearly dead compared to GB / DS times.

Defend vita with whatever argument is... untenable :/

@joeorc - I can see you're very passionate about PSTV. I guess we uave different perspectives. I have a PS4 and a Vita, and see absolutely no reason why anybody, especially me, would bother with that little box.
You speak of 1st party studios. You don't actually believe that they will, after mostly ignoring Vita for 2 years and mostly porting PS3 games onto it, they'll suddenly up and start developing games for a gimped version of Vita.

One of us will end up being right, at the moment I believe it's me. PSTV has no target market, because everything it does, something else does better, cheaper or fancier (or all 3).
Vita will continue to live in Japan and among western otaku, but it has failed to take off significantly in the west, and no amount of Remote play or TV boxes will change that.

which remeber has been since 2007 because that was when the Apple TV hit the market and its LTD is just now at 25 million units! 7 years going by that many on this board would be calling that not doing to well..lol but in true terms its doing quite well , many's expectations for how well a product is doing in the market is i think when it comes to being said to be a "failure" is pretty ironic from a standpoint you sell 8 + million of any product in any market is pretty d@mn good the blunt truth is you sold freaking 8 million units of a single product, yes other companies may sell more of the products they make, but that does not take away from the fact your company has sold that many units. And since its not still being pulled off the shelf it must be doing good enough to stay in the market.

thats just now seeing LTD 25 million, Sony is now releasing a Micro-Console in a Market with simple name of Playstation TV, so unlike the Apple TV box or the Amazon Fire TV box, or Roku they do not have the presence in the game section of retail stores those boxes are in the TV section, now with the playstation TV where do you think its going?

remember the PS3, not only was the ps3 in the game section but also in Home theatre sold near TV's also.

thats the thing though just by PS4+Playstation TV bundle say for $499.00, Now it can be sold for $99.00 by itself in the games section and in the same section as the apple tv, amazon fire tv, roku boxes, and google tv boxes too boot.

Playstation games from ps1,ps2,ps3 all on the package to show its a micro Game console @$99.00 to $139.00

i think the market push is going to be quite large this christmas season from Sony..when Kaz said they are going to be aggressive for the "living room" they are in my opinion with moves like this.

I think the PS Vita TV will do pretty well in the US. What I'm more worried about is the actual handheld. Maybe, the PS Vita TV will significantly increase the install base and consequently, help the Vita brand get more games which will also help the handheld. However, this is all speculation in my part.

but i think that is the point, look what game comes with the playstation TV in the $139.00 bundle, making the device with a simple name of 

"Playstation TV" makes it more along the same lines as easy to understand what the product is Like AppleTV or Amazon Fire TV, OR Google TV.

The name was decided because taking a Holistic view of "playstation" is not just looking at it as only one platform at a time now, its more along the lines as an ECO system, that is what has changed for sony in the past few year's. the New CEO and the people running playstation understand that.

Why worry about the PSVita as unto itself as a platform when its now more a part "Of" just the fact its not designed like a PSP was, its designed to be "included" from not excluded from the playstation Network not in just one part but all of it.

That's the point the big point so what happens with the standard Playstation TV takes off, you think Sony is going to stop production on the standard PSVita?

Say if they did, how does that than stop support for the existing PSVita's out there, if the playstation TV is selling like gang busters than the support for the standard PSVita is still there by default because the playstation TV it is still a PSVita both units are even down to the OS,blank memory cards and game card they all use the same eco system.