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Why do you hate digital games?

Can't sell them 66 15.24%
 
HDD space is too limited 19 4.39%
 
I like a physical collection 171 39.49%
 
The downloads may become ... 69 15.94%
 
Other 15 3.46%
 
I don't really mind digital games 41 9.47%
 
DIGITAL GAME MASTER RACE 45 10.39%
 
Total:426
VanceIX said:
StarOcean said:
Idk when I have a system I either do all digital or all downloadable. If I do both it ruins the consistency in my opinion. Though download only can be awesome, I love my PSPgo XD

I loved my Go as well. Best PSP iteration, imo, and I have the 2000 and 3000 as well. It was what introduced me to just how awesome digital downloads are. Having a library all-digital is a boon, as I don't have to worry about my discs getting scratched, and all my games are available for me to play as soon as I start the console up.

It is really nice, I just wish it had more PSP titles added to it. There are some rarer PSP games that'd be cool to own digitally



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czecherychestnut said:
1) I only have 100GB a month with is split 50GB on peak and 50GB offpeak. Once you factor in downloads for movies and tv shows, I can't afford to download a 30-40GB game every month.

I feel you there. Download caps are still prevalent in some areas, but hopefully that will change soon. I go through 100gb in a week sometimes :P

2) Digital games last so long as the servers are running. As someone who still occasionally dusts of the Atari 2600 from when I was a kid to play Riverraid, its nice to know that I can play these games until the hardware carks it. With digital, I could only play it until the servers are shut down.

Physical games only last as long as the disc doesn't scratch up or the conectors on a cartridge don't become worn out. Nothing realistically lasts forever, but I see no reason why the servers can't stay up. Apple servers for mp3 dowloads have been up forverer, and Steam downloads have been and will be available for a loooooong time. Both Xbox and Playstation are prevalent enough brands that I doubt the servers ever go down for download, especially as streaming becomes more popular.

3) In Australia at least, digital is more often than not more expensive than physical copies in store, leaving digital with the only benefit of not having to find the disk to play a game, and that benefit is not worth the negatives of points 1-3.

Digital games always cost the same, but that's not where the value is. Digital games go on sale MUCH more often than physical- like I said, you can get a $20 game for $5, or 50 Steam games for $20, if you buy games in bundles or during the massive sales that come with digital distribution. Also, no taxes on digital downloads (not 100% sure about Australia, but I imagine the case would be similar).



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StarOcean said:
VanceIX said:
StarOcean said:
Idk when I have a system I either do all digital or all downloadable. If I do both it ruins the consistency in my opinion. Though download only can be awesome, I love my PSPgo XD

I loved my Go as well. Best PSP iteration, imo, and I have the 2000 and 3000 as well. It was what introduced me to just how awesome digital downloads are. Having a library all-digital is a boon, as I don't have to worry about my discs getting scratched, and all my games are available for me to play as soon as I start the console up.

It is really nice, I just wish it had more PSP titles added to it. There are some rarer PSP games that'd be cool to own digitally

True. The Vita did it better since it has all games available digitally by default, but I enjoyed some awesome PSP games I got for cheap or through PS+, while getting physical ones for my 2000/3000 (which, granted, I still didn't play much).



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i like it... got watchdogs for 20$...steamkey sellers rule...



VanceIX said:

czecherychestnut said:
1) I only have 100GB a month with is split 50GB on peak and 50GB offpeak. Once you factor in downloads for movies and tv shows, I can't afford to download a 30-40GB game every month.

I feel you there. Download caps are still prevalent in some areas, but hopefully that will change soon. I go through 100gb in a week sometimes :P

2) Digital games last so long as the servers are running. As someone who still occasionally dusts of the Atari 2600 from when I was a kid to play Riverraid, its nice to know that I can play these games until the hardware carks it. With digital, I could only play it until the servers are shut down.

Physical games only last as long as the disc doesn't scratch up or the conectors on a cartridge don't become worn out. Nothing realistically lasts forever, but I see no reason why the servers can't stay up. Apple servers for mp3 dowloads have been up forverer, and Steam downloads have been and will be available for a loooooong time. Both Xbox and Playstation are prevalent enough brands that I doubt the servers ever go down for download, especially as streaming becomes more popular.

3) In Australia at least, digital is more often than not more expensive than physical copies in store, leaving digital with the only benefit of not having to find the disk to play a game, and that benefit is not worth the negatives of points 1-3.

Digital games always cost the same, but that's not where the value is. Digital games go on sale MUCH more often than physical- like I said, you can get a $20 game for $5, or 50 Steam games for $20, if you buy games in bundles or during the massive sales that come with digital distribution. Also, no taxes on digital downloads (not 100% sure about Australia, but I imagine the case would be similar).

Like I said, I still play Atari 2600 games that my parents bought in the late 80's, they still work. Can you honestly say that Sony or MS will have PS3 games available to download in 30 years time? Blu-ray is extremely scratch resistent, and I've never had a blu-ray game read error yet, physical formats if cared for last a long long time. Regarding your last point, PSN has Watchdogs for $89.95, Target had Watchdogs for $64. Even on Steam, Watchdogs is $US75 here. Yeah you get sales, but so do stores, and in my experience stores have sales more often than online does. 

 I get it might be different elsewhere, but in Australia and PSN at least digital is usually more expensive than physical. I'm not anti-digital, I have a decent amount of Steam games on my PC that I've picked up for $5-$10 in those huge sales, but for more expensive games I'll go physical everytime because it just doesn't pay to do digital here. The world is not an extension of the US, the US might be set up better for digital, but for many countries a lot of progress needs to be made. 



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This generation I went digital only. I am very happy with it. I can buy a game without need to go to the store, or without ordering online and waiting for it to arrive in mail. I have the convenience to play any game I want without keeping discs and boxes around and swapping them.
I feel more secure from downloads, because I can always delete and later re-dl the tame, and don't have to worry about the disc getting lost or damaged.

But I am also not a collector, once I'm done with the game I don't need it anymore, and it's much easier to sell a digital game than a physical, less hassle and I again don't have to deal with stores or the post office.



I only like digital on sale. Paying 60 usd for a digital game feels like paying for air or throwing money out somewhat, because when I was exclusively a pc gamer I pirated most of my games.



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Personally, I feel like the biggest concern is vulnerability.
if your games are digital, you're susceptible to whatever company decides to own your soul for it.
That scares a lot of people. They want to own their games, do whatever they want with them as their own property. Digital complicates things.

I have no problem with digital, only companies that think they can abuse their use of them.



VanceIX said:

A lot of people are steadfast against digital games, but I'm not quite sure why at times. From what I can see, digital games are much superior to their physical copies. I'll list some common arguments, and try to rebute them.

1. "I want the ability to sell my games when I'm done with them, or at least be able to play it on another console!"

From what I understand, a lot of people who make this argument don't actually sell a good portion of their games in the first place. Even if you do, I would think that the cheaper price of digital games would make up for that easily. For example, I got a $20 game (Ni no Kuni) for $5 on a PSN sale the other day. Dark Souls 2 was also available for $40, which is a bargain compared to the price of the physical edition. Microsoft also has talked about implementing a large variety of sales for their digital games. Just look at Steam: You can get a hundred games for less than $100 if you wait for sales or get humble bundles. You just can't save that kind of money with physical media. 

Also, Sony, Microsoft, and Valve all let people have multiple devices that can have a game at once. Many people seem to believe that a game is tied to a console, and once you no longer have that console, you lose that game. What they don't realize is that, with the exception of Nintendo, everyone's digitally purchased games are tied to an account, meaning you can have multiple systems with the same game, as long as you log in to download it. Sony allows you to have two consoles with the same game, and you can activate or deactivate consoles as you go along. That means you can log into your friend's PS4 and download the game there, and then just log off when you leave. 

 

From your statements I can't help but conclude that you don't know anyone in the game collecting community or know anyone that's made real profit from their game collection. My game collection alone pays for my games and has paid for my consoles as well as my gaming PC. The last games I sold were a never opened mint condition version of God of War and God of War 2 special edition for $1000. Granted that was to another collector that absolutely wanted those games, but that's the point you can always find someone to sell something to if ya look hard enough. That's why I always buy two versions of the game. One I never open and keep in perfect condition straight from the developer and never from stores and then one to play.

I even got a great deal with a friend of mine that runs the local arcade. He's got a great arcade at the mall, has tons of machines and has a nice set up. He charges customers $20 bucks and they can stay pretty much all day. He's got a nice section in the back with just about every console and game. When I beat a game or get halfway done with a game I sell it to him for $25 which is more than local game stop would give me and he lets me play there any time I want for free. So even if I don't beat the game right away or I want to play the game again I know where it's at and can play it just about any time I want. He's got good insurance and keeps good stock so if a game ever goes missing the insurance replaces it right away. Which is a lot harder to do btw for the much older nintendo and sega games. A few years ago they had some games stolen I think it was like 3-4 nintendo games that got stolen. He was able to convince their appraiser that the games had a high value because of their rarity and a buddy of mine that had decent quality versions made a few grand for himself and it was paid for by the insurance company. The funniest part imo was a few months later the same games were found in decent condition at a pawn shop not far away for $40. My friend that made a few grand from selling those games talked the guy down and got the games back for $15.

So you want to know why people hate digital games so much? It's because they have no real value. The second they are purchased they become worthless. The only value they have is entertainment value and that is subjective and ultimately meaningless to anyone with enough creativity and intelligence. Physical games are a commodity period. You keep it in good condition and it increases in value over time and the more rare it becomes. Ya do things to it that make it more rare like add autographs of the devs or include rare artbooks from the game and it increases the value even more. I can't speak for every part of the world but here in America you can always find eccentric rich people to buy rare items at a high price. That's the beauty of capitalism. So many people dislike digital, especially collectors is because digital is not a commodity. It's just code that can be easily copied or deleted. It can never increase in value and only decreases in value over time. That's why steam games are so cheap.

I'm not saying you shouldn't buy digital only. I am saying tho that it can never be digital only. It should always exist along side physical games otherwise a lot of people lose a lot of money and a good commodity pretty much gets destroyed. Digital is really good for indie developers tho. I will buy indie digital games because it's a good investment in them. I'll take it a step further tho when I like the company and get in contact with the developers and shell out a bit extra for a physical copy. Indie developers are usually really accommodating. Like The Fullbright Company for example, I was able to get a signed physical disk of Gone Home which is going to be worth a lot to someone someday. So yeah that's why people that make money off their games like I do don't like digital only. There is no money in it. Frankly I think every person should ask themselves before they make a purchase of any kind one question, that question is simply "Can I turn this around and make some kind of profit off it?". The answer for digital only is no and at best is an investment gamble into the devs.



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All of the above.

Can't sell them: Buy for 69, not all that great, I'll sell it.
HDD space limited: Plus HDDs slow down when they fill up, better to run a half empty drive.
Like physical collection: Trade in the crap, you're left with a shelf full of gems :)
Downloads may become unavailable: Plus when HDD dies -> lot of work to retrieve everything
Other: 80GB download cap, can't download AAA games.
Don't mind: Indie games! Love em.
Digital game master race: GOG + Steam saved pc gaming, or maybe killed physical. Hmm Stockholm syndrome :/