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Forums - Sales Discussion - Global Up! 31st May 2014

Soundwave on 05 June 2014
Clyde32 said:
Soundwave said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
Simply amazing the wii u was able to come so close to beating ps4 this week when Wii U's sales have been so anemic and PS4's so strong this whole year. I can definitely see MK8 sustaining Wii U through summer, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wii U starts beating PS4 some upcoming weeks.


Reality is going to come crashing down soon, lol. 

Anyways I think those numbers are overtracked to an extent all around. NPD will tell the tale though. 


The PS4s?

Wii U more likely. VGC has overtracked the Wii U by 20-25% a lot of times. 



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HyrulianScrolls on 05 June 2014
CGI-Quality said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
Simply amazing the wii u was able to come so close to beating ps4 this week when Wii U's sales have been so anemic and PS4's so strong this whole year. I can definitely see MK8 sustaining Wii U through summer, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wii U starts beating PS4 some upcoming weeks.

System sellers don't generally increase hardware units beyond that of their initial release week. This will keep the WiiU higher than previous weeks, perhaps until the end of the month, but not enough to top PS4 any week this month nor enough to sustain similar strength throughout the Summer. Just doesn't work like that.

Um if that were true they wouldn't qualify as a "system seller." Rather just a game that had a big week and then dropped off.



Soundwave on 05 June 2014
HyrulianScrolls said:
CGI-Quality said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
Simply amazing the wii u was able to come so close to beating ps4 this week when Wii U's sales have been so anemic and PS4's so strong this whole year. I can definitely see MK8 sustaining Wii U through summer, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wii U starts beating PS4 some upcoming weeks.

System sellers don't generally increase hardware units beyond that of their initial release week. This will keep the WiiU higher than previous weeks, perhaps until the end of the month, but not enough to top PS4 any week this month nor enough to sustain similar strength throughout the Summer. Just doesn't work like that.

Um if that were true they wouldn't qualify as a "system seller." Rather just a game that had a big week and then dropped off.


There are actually very, very few games that do that. A game that causes a sizable 1-2 week boost and a decent gain in hardware baseline for a month or more is a system seller. What you are talking about is a generational type of game, like a Brain Training on the DS or Wii Sports for the Wii or Call of Duty 4 for the 360/PS3 .. something that drives hardware sales for like a year plus, but those are extremely rare, and even in those cases a lot of people forget those games have a fair deal of help from other big games.



jlmurph2 on 05 June 2014
lmaobox said:
jlmurph2 said:
MohammadBadir said:
Where's the X1 boost?


Would you buy an Xbox One at $499 less than 2 weeks before it's $399?

PS4 was at #1 @ Amazon best sellers from June all the way to Dec of last year.

The Xbone $399 version is nowhere in the top 100 list. Price is just one of the reasons why the Xbone trails the PS4.

Power is one factor. Larger multiplayer community is another. The fact that Microsoft tries to spend as little money as possible on exclusives as shown last-gen is another (People don't like being deceived twice). The PS4 is actually the only console that fixes a lot of the issues of last-gen consoles, most notably long install and loading times, something the Xbone does WORSE than the PS3.

There are lots of reasons why.


Well those are just straight lies. Xbox One $399 has been in the top 100 since it was announced and the PS3 had the absolute WORST install and load times. How could you possibly think Xbox One is slower if it is in fact faster than Xbox 360's? Which is way faster than PS3's.

Amazon is not the only place where people can see a $399 Xbox One. Gamestop, the main console retailer has already confirmed the interest for it.



jlmurph2 on 05 June 2014
CGI-Quality said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
CGI-Quality said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
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System sellers don't generally increase hardware units beyond that of their initial release week. This will keep the WiiU higher than previous weeks, perhaps until the end of the month, but not enough to top PS4 any week this month nor enough to sustain similar strength throughout the Summer. Just doesn't work like that.

Um if that were true they wouldn't qualify as a "system seller." Rather just a game that had a big week and then dropped off.

If such is the case, have you got any examples to the contrary, particularly of late? As it stands, if you expect an increase in WiiU sales beyond the week of May 31, especially of any substantial amount, you will probably be wrong. 


Very true, this is the peak until the holidays. Which happens with every system seller.



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sidmeiernintifan on 05 June 2014

XBOX1 seems too low to me for a console that had a game which sold half a million, I know it was extremely overtracked the last 2 months, but this week it seems too low to me.



jlmurph2 on 05 June 2014
sidmeiernintifan said:
XBOX1 seems too low to me for a console that had a game which sold half a million, I know it was extremely overtracked the last 2 months, but this week it seems too low to me.


And that's just US



Clyde32 on 05 June 2014
Soundwave said:
Clyde32 said:
Soundwave said:
HyrulianScrolls said:
Simply amazing the wii u was able to come so close to beating ps4 this week when Wii U's sales have been so anemic and PS4's so strong this whole year. I can definitely see MK8 sustaining Wii U through summer, and I wouldn't be surprised if Wii U starts beating PS4 some upcoming weeks.


Reality is going to come crashing down soon, lol. 

Anyways I think those numbers are overtracked to an extent all around. NPD will tell the tale though. 


The PS4s?

Wii U more likely. VGC has overtracked the Wii U by 20-25% a lot of times. 


Oh really? Last I checked it was undertracked.



Devil_Survivor on 05 June 2014
Raziel123 said:
So i assume this means the PS4 has definitely surpassed 8 million by now? 2 more weeks and it goes past Vita i guess


I don't if I should cheer or cry for that news.



 

Clyde32 on 05 June 2014
Arkaign said:
I love it, Xb1 doing even worse than I predicted. It's no surprise the WD boost was almost all ps4. Better version, more content, higher social inertia behind ps4. Destiny will be even more of a beating for the xb1. It will be better on ps4 and everyone knows it. In fact, with bungie being far better than 343, the existence of a fantastic true heritage sci fi fps available on ps4 will end up hurting halo from a fake studio for a weak console that's getting crushed by ps4. Only the brand loyal are supporting xb1, the rest see it as a poor value for a console full of 180s, compromises, poor specs, and arrogant dismissive marketing and reveal.

This is the story of the gen. Xb1s tombstone is already etched as an also-ran. It will be remembered as a colossal blunder that surpasses even the ps3 for hubris and disappointment.

Oh and those WD sales compared to titanfall, what 3rd party will agree to a new exclusive deal with xb1? It would cost a fortune in lost sales to agree to do that. On the other hand skipping xb1 entirely becomes more and more of a no worry decision.

Maybe next gen Microsoft. After all, loyalty doesn't exist. I'm sure if they try again they won't make the same insane mistakes. The og Xbox is one of my fave consoles of all time. The 360 is great on many levels rrod notwithstanding. The xb1 is an abortion.


 

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