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Forums - Sales - The Xbox One is a MAJOR FLOP in mainland Europe (6,697 units sold post-price cut). We need to talk about this.

 

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Troll_Whisperer said:
eFKac said:
How much did the Wii U sell?

8,203 units.

Just in Europe minus the U.K.?



 

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ryuendo89 said:
That's because of price drop anouncement, until 9 june expect very very low X1 sales, nothing flopness about it people are now holding the purchase

It sold 5,172 units last week.



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Devil_Survivor said:
Troll_Whisperer said:
eFKac said:
How much did the Wii U sell?

8,203 units.

Just in Europe minus the U.K.?

Yup.



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ryuendo89 said:
That's because of price drop anouncement, until 9 june expect very very low X1 sales, nothing flopness about it people are now holding the purchase


No, it's not. Sales were very low last week as well and the week before and the week before that, etc.

 

Reality check: the X1 is dead outside the US and UK. A price cut won't chsnge that. The X1 offers nothing that the PS4 doesn't do bettee outside of NA since it's a very american centered console. 

 

A price cut won't change that, Halo won't change that (it's huge only in NA/UK). MS pissed away all thr advances they made last gen. That's why I'll stick to my 20-25 million NA, 6 million UK, and a very, very generous 10 million elsewhere prediction for the console. And that's the base case scenerio. 



X1 isn't an American centric console (Sony have beaten them in US all months but December - low stocks). X1 is a very microsoftian centric console, it will sell well for people that like ms and their propositions and experiences the others are free to take, and a lot of them were taken by Sony with consumer centric ps4.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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DonFerrari said:
X1 isn't an American centric console (Sony have beaten them in US all months but December - low stocks). X1 is a very microsoftian centric console, it will sell well for people that like ms and their propositions and experiences the others are free to take, and a lot of them were taken by Sony with consumer centric ps4.

Well, it certainly isn't European centric. Watching TV through it doesn't even work properly in Europe due to the console being 60HZ and European TV emisions 50HZ. And that was in theory the whole raison d'etre for the Xbox One. That says a lot about how much thought MS put into Europe.

It might not be American centric in the sense that it fulfills American needs... because they failed. They thought they would fulfill those needs. But they certainly didn't even try to create a console that would appeal to worldwide audiences. I honestly don't know what they were thinking.



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nitekrawler1285 said:

If you could please point out where I have contradicted myself I would be very grateful.  

My assertion is that marketing does not fix the issues of the Wii U and the X1.  Them being unattractive to their previous audience is what is causing them to not sell.  I don't understand how pointing out how Microsoft is spending tons of money with slightly less than 30k weekly in US last NPD doesn't do anything to but drive my point home not contradict it.  I believe that constitutes an argument.  One that you have yet to address.        


You keep changing your argument though.



Man some people seeing this as a personal victory is a new low. The talk about how European buyers are more neutral and only buy the superior PS product ( AKA Xbox One sucks) is even more false. Europe is less neutral than the US, most people here don't even know what an Xbox is and think a console is a Playstation. Most people won't even consider a Xbox allthough it has some great games with more to come. Playstation selling more has to do with the European mindset, not with how much better Playstation is than Xbox ( and that's your own perception, enough people think the contrary)



Troll_Whisperer said:
DonFerrari said:
X1 isn't an American centric console (Sony have beaten them in US all months but December - low stocks). X1 is a very microsoftian centric console, it will sell well for people that like ms and their propositions and experiences the others are free to take, and a lot of them were taken by Sony with consumer centric ps4.

Well, it certainly isn't European centric. Watching TV through it doesn't even work properly in Europe due to the console being 60HZ and European TV emisions 50HZ. And that was in theory the whole raison d'etre for the Xbox One. That says a lot about how much thought MS put into Europe.

It might not be American centric in the sense that it fulfills American needs... because they failed. They thought they would fulfill those needs. But they certainly didn't even try to create a console that would appeal to worldwide audiences. I honestly don't know what they were thinking.

Do this apply to programation through HDMI? I don't think that should be a problem since x1 works on the television.

And I totally agree that they certainly tried to fill the needs of US costumers and forgot WW as always. But it seems they don't know their audience really well.





duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

maximrace said:
Man some people seeing this as a personal victory is a new low. The talk about how European buyers are more neutral and only buy the superior PS product ( AKA Xbox One sucks) is even more false. Europe is less neutral than the US, most people here don't even know what an Xbox is and think a console is a Playstation. Most people won't even consider a Xbox allthough it has some great games with more to come. Playstation selling more has to do with the European mindset, not with how much better Playstation is than Xbox ( and that's your own perception, enough people think the contrary)


I agree some people are going to far in this thread, but the ratio has gone from 2:1 last gen to 8:1 this gen, so dont undersell it as European Mindset either.