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Player2 on 21 September 2017
HomokHarcos said:
If Catalonia gained independence, would Barcelona still be allowed in La Liga?

Not even here I can dodge this shit?

Nothing is secure, except that Barcelona won't play in the Catalonian league.



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HomokHarcos on 21 September 2017
Player2 said:
HomokHarcos said:
If Catalonia gained independence, would Barcelona still be allowed in La Liga?

Not even here I can dodge this shit?

Nothing is secure, except that Barcelona won't play in the Catalonian league.

If they want to prove the desire for independence, wouldn't forming a Catalonian league be important? FC Barcelona is Catalonia's biggest symbol, and forming a a league would signify Barcelona being leaders of Catalonia.



poklane on 21 September 2017

I just wonder if the UEFA would even allow 2 countries which can easily host their own professional league to play in a shared league, simply because it could set an awful precedent. If clubs from an independent Catalonia can play in 1 league together with Spanish teams or French teams (some people have also suggested this), what's stopping for example clubs form France, England and Germany playing 1 league to form a Super League?

Also, comparing clubs from countries like Monaco playing in the French league or clubs from San Marino playing in the Italian league to Catalan clubs playing in the Spanish league isn't really a fair comparison. Countries like Monaco and San Marino are from micro-states unable to host a professional league of their own. Comparing it to Welsh teams playing in the English leagues also isn't really fair, that goes back over a century and Wales still has their own league as well, if 1 Catalan team gets granted entry into the Spanish league there's no reason why other Catalan teams wont demand that as well.

If Catalonia successfully gains independence (they wont), it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if UEFA forces them to have their own league. Personally I also think that every country should host their own league if they're able to do so.



ArchangelMadzz on 21 September 2017
poklane said:

I just wonder if the UEFA would even allow 2 countries which can easily host their own professional league to play in a shared league, simply because it could set an awful precedent. If clubs from an independent Catalonia can play in 1 league together with Spanish teams or French teams (some people have also suggested this), what's stopping for example clubs form France, England and Germany playing 1 league to form a Super League?

Also, comparing clubs from countries like Monaco playing in the French league or clubs from San Marino playing in the Italian league to Catalan clubs playing in the Spanish league isn't really a fair comparison. Countries like Monaco and San Marino are from micro-states unable to host a professional league of their own. Comparing it to Welsh teams playing in the English leagues also isn't really fair, that goes back over a century and Wales still has their own league as well, if 1 Catalan team gets granted entry into the Spanish league there's no reason why other Catalan teams wont demand that as well.

If Catalonia successfully gains independence (they wont), it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if UEFA forces them to have their own league. Personally I also think that every country should host their own league if they're able to do so.

We have it here in the UK. Swansea are a Welsh team but play in the English Premier League.

Cardiff another welsh team plays in the english leagues. It wouldn't be unprecedented for Barcelona to still play in La Liga if they gained independence. 



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HomokHarcos on 21 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
poklane said:

I just wonder if the UEFA would even allow 2 countries which can easily host their own professional league to play in a shared league, simply because it could set an awful precedent. If clubs from an independent Catalonia can play in 1 league together with Spanish teams or French teams (some people have also suggested this), what's stopping for example clubs form France, England and Germany playing 1 league to form a Super League?

Also, comparing clubs from countries like Monaco playing in the French league or clubs from San Marino playing in the Italian league to Catalan clubs playing in the Spanish league isn't really a fair comparison. Countries like Monaco and San Marino are from micro-states unable to host a professional league of their own. Comparing it to Welsh teams playing in the English leagues also isn't really fair, that goes back over a century and Wales still has their own league as well, if 1 Catalan team gets granted entry into the Spanish league there's no reason why other Catalan teams wont demand that as well.

If Catalonia successfully gains independence (they wont), it wouldn't surprise me in the slightest if UEFA forces them to have their own league. Personally I also think that every country should host their own league if they're able to do so.

And Catalan teams playing in the Spanish league doesn't go back over a century? I expect Catalonia would have their own league too, the big teams may just prefer to stay in the Spanish league, just like the big Welsh teams in the English leagues.

The whole point of Catalonia becoming independent would be to prove they can govern themselves without needing the Spanish government. Staying in La Liga would show the opposite, that they are reliant on Spain. As for Wales, last time I checked they did not gain independence from the UK.



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HomokHarcos on 21 September 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
HomokHarcos said:

The whole point of Catalonia becoming independent would be to prove they can govern themselves without needing the Spanish government. Staying in La Liga would show the opposite, that they are reliant on Spain. As for Wales, last time I checked they did not gain independence from the UK.

While that may all be true, FC Barcelona aren't owned by the government, they are a business. And for both sporting and economic reasons they'd be better off staying in the Spanish leagues.

Nobody would really benefit from it. Not La Liga, not Real Madrid and not Barcelona.



ArchangelMadzz on 21 September 2017
HomokHarcos said:
Ka-pi96 said:

While that may all be true, FC Barcelona aren't owned by the government, they are a business. And for both sporting and economic reasons they'd be better off staying in the Spanish leagues.

Nobody would really benefit from it. Not La Liga, not Real Madrid and not Barcelona.

Exactly, there's no sense for Barcelona to leave la Liga if Catalonia gains independence. 



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The Fury on 22 September 2017

Saints vs Man U this weekend, going to enjoy the sweet nil all draw we get. :P



Hmm, pie.

Player2 on 22 September 2017
HomokHarcos said:
Ka-pi96 said:

And Catalan teams playing in the Spanish league doesn't go back over a century? I expect Catalonia would have their own league too, the big teams may just prefer to stay in the Spanish league, just like the big Welsh teams in the English leagues.

The whole point of Catalonia becoming independent would be to prove they can govern themselves without needing the Spanish government. Staying in La Liga would show the opposite, that they are reliant on Spain. As for Wales, last time I checked they did not gain independence from the UK.

Right now the whole point of Catalonia becoming independent is that some ex-politicians of Catalonia need it to avoid ending up in jail due to corruption, and to fill their pockets with even more money. And if that damages catalonian businesses and citizens, then so be it.



poklane on 22 September 2017

Dembélé contract leaked:

  • €105million transfer sum (€70m right away, €35m on July 1st 2018)
  • €5m bonus after 25 games, 50 games, 75 games and 100 games (€20m total)
  • €5m bonus for winning the Champions League (capped at €10m)
  • €5m bonus for participating in the Champions League (capped at €10m)
  • €12m salary (5 times the amount he got at Dortmund)
  • €3m signing bonus
  • €6.7m 'special' bonus
  • €3.3m bonus for winning the Treble (Spanish League, Spanish Cup and Champions League)

Twitter link
http://www.spiegel.de/sport/fussball/ousmane-dembele-borussia-dortmund-kassiert-volle-abloese-trotz-verletzung-a-1169294.html