It's true though.

Yeah, the people on here that said they hurt Rare are correct.

Yes. Banjo-Kazooie and Banjo-Tooie didn't sell too bad. It could have helped Wii U's drought a little bit!

its Nintendos fault that Rare left. They aren't an easy company to work with. Microsoft bought them fair and square, but they have no idea how to run a company like that properly.

In a lot of ways -- yes.

I think Microsoft squeezed Nintendo out of the core market and convinced Nintendo that they couldn't compete head on in that area because they are much smaller company than MS.

And while being the alternative game company served them well for a few years, they've lost the casual audience to iOS/Android gaming now too ... which leaves them in a very difficult position now.

If MS didn't exist, IMO Nintendo would be a much more balanced company today, making more games for core gamers (rather than being at the mercy of more unreliable and fickle casuals) while still making the same ol' Mario/Zelda/Metroid games that everyone enjoys.

No, i don't think so. At all.

If anything, they hurt Rare. I mean Kinect Sports Rivals? That is a waste of talent.

Microsoft saved Nintendo from Sony's wrath.Nintendo was on a path to being destroyed by record setting numbers in the gaming industry and losing massive chunks of marketshare. Since Microsoft has been basicallu warding off Sony, Nintendo has been making their own plans. Nintendo would've gone down with the ship had Sony not been distracted by Microsoft.

I think if there was no XBox, the GameCube would've sold at least 30+ million units, a healthy amount and then they would've built off that and seized on Sony's mistake of making a $600 PS3. 

To be honest the game industry wasn't good for Microsoft anyway ... here we are, almost 15 years later, and MS really is back to getting worked over by Sony and still has not made proper inroads anywhere globally outside of North America.

And the reason MS entered the game biz in the first place was because they were afraid Sony was a threat to their Windows stronghold, but they actually were blind to the real threats ... Apple and Google are the ones that they should've been keeping an eye on. 

And Nintendo got pushed into a direction, which was temporarily successful for them, has in the long term (IMO) made them weaker. 

I think Nintendo would've been just fine being a profitable no.2 in the game business, even the N64 made a good amount of money for them. 

if you read my posts you know how I feel about all this. Nintendo shoudl have jumped and got those IPs then Wii U would not be having these drought right now and have a constant flow of great franchises.

Possibly, but I don't think Sony would have made a $600 PS3 if MS hadn't been breathing down their neck and released the 360 when they did, instead they would have sat on the PS2 a bit longer until the PS3 became cheap enough to build.  But on the whole I agree with you, the GB would have been more successful, though probably not enough to meaningfully change the overall outcome of gen 6. 

OT, I agree with people that say Nintendo let go of Rare at their zenith and therefore sold out at the best time. I really don't believe Rare has amounted to much since MS purchased them, and I feel MS would have got better return on investment from building a developer up from scratch. Most of Rare's best talent had already left.