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Forums - Sales - Japan Gaming on a HUGE Decline In HW Sales (Gen to Gen), We Need To Talk About It! [20.6mil ~77.3mil]

 

Total Sales For This Gen in Japan???

Under 30mil O.o 38 38.00%
 
30mil-32mil 7 7.00%
 
32mil-34mil 3 3.00%
 
34mil-36mil 7 7.00%
 
36mil-38mil 12 12.00%
 
38mil-40mil 3 3.00%
 
40mil-45mil 6 6.00%
 
45mil+ *Miracle 23 23.00%
 
Total:99

The problem with the numbers you are using is they are not relative.

You are using numbers from consoles which were out for 7-8 years and comparing them to consoles only out for 1-2 years.

I think you should compare the relative numbers from release date for a more accurate representation.

And yes, console gaming is on a decline, its just due to the rise in popularity for mobile gaming - but that is, IMO, an unsustainable platform for gaming, and it will go full circle back to traditional handhelds and consoles.



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Cleary397 said:
The problem with the numbers you are using is they are not relative.

You are using numbers from consoles which were out for 7-8 years and comparing them to consoles only out for 1-2 years.

I think you should compare the relative numbers from release date for a more accurate representation.

And yes, console gaming is on a decline, its just due to the rise in popularity for mobile gaming - but that is, IMO, an unsustainable platform for gaming, and it will go full circle back to traditional handhelds and consoles.


Im showing the total number for gen 7, im notsaying this gen stopped at this number. Even if you aligned them up everything is tremendously down from their predecessor!

RolStoppable said:


What has been happening in Japan is declining birth rates, so that first hits Nintendo (because their brand is trusted and thus their systems are bought for children without a second thought) and later on Sony (because they feed off the audience that Nintendo brought into gaming by converting them to the "cooler" brand). Nintendo's solution was to cater to older audiences in which they succeeded, like mentioned in the previous paragraph. However, generation 8 features a Nintendo that decided to fight with Sony over a declining market, both in home consoles and handhelds. 

I completely forgot about the problem you presented. This is actually quite serious to many things outside of gaming as well. Japan is becoming quite old in it's average age and things need to change. 



I wonder whether smartphones will just perish for the sake of the next big thing at some point, or if they're here to stay :/



Smart phones are obviously to blame, but they won't last forever. PCs didn't last forever, arcades didn't last forever, and consoles won't last forever either, but neither will tablets or phones. Games will though, and the companies that make them can also last through the trends if they catch on soon enough, or better yet, if they set them. I agree that Microsoft is a non-factor in Japan's market, and Sony probably will try to maintain the status quo with a super powerful, super expensive PS5, so I have a feeling it'll be up to Nintendo to adapt. The QoL thing sounds promising for Japan's aging population, and the supposed Fusion console should help with the AAA development cost bubble that's just waiting to burst any time now. I don't know if it'll be enough though.

As for tablets and phones, I see that market crashing soon enough. It resembles the gaming industry before the first big crash. Easy accessibility and low standards of quality results in a market flooded with crap. Add in the fact that consumer's attention spans on phones tend to mean IPs become irrelevant very quickly, and the anti consumer practices in a lot of free-to-play or play-to-win games, and you end up with a recipe for disaster. The market is only doing well now because everyone has a phone, most of the games are free, and development costs are nil. Just watch, when Flappy Bird comes back with multiplayer, it'll bomb. Candy Crush Saga will start earning more money from lawsuits over the word candy than actual sales. Sending an IP to mobile is a death sentence, and a market like that is unstable and unsustainable.



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★    New Gen        ~      Last Gen     ☆

★3DS:  25mil  vs  33.0mil    :DS☆

★Vita:     8mil  vs  20.1mil    :PSP☆

★PS4:    7mil  vs    9.9mil     :PS3☆  

★X1  :      0.75mil    vs    1.6mil     :X360☆

★WiiU:   7mil  vs  12.7mil     :Wii☆

That's how I reckon the new gen will end.

47.75 million. So well short of gen 7, but not less than half.



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MohammadBadir said:
I wonder whether smartphones will just perish for the sake of the next big thing at some point, or if they're here to stay :/


We need to destroy all phones >_<