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Let's wait. At moment both consoles could have better sales but with titles like Final Fantasy XV for PS4 and X for Wii U both can make it. So the Japanese market becomes more interesting than the rest of the world...



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Aerys said:

Saying PS4 is a flop whereas there is not even one exclusive system seller on it is silly.

In comparison, Wii U has the whole christmas + Mario + MH , and it sold only 200k more than PS4 in the same period though.

How is the PS4 a flop if the gap is japan is only 200k? People seem to forgot how strong a year lead really is.

Had the Wii U release last year instead of 2012 it would be losing to the no games PS4. Not to mention the PS4 has yet to get a holiday boost.

Remember when people predicted that the PS4 would be last or that the Wii U would decimate the competition? Ofc you do, these threads are being necroed all the time.



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Why are you so butthurt ps4 is selling at a rate 3x the wiiU is selling?

Have some dignity and admit to be a sore loser.



Can't take op seriously after reading first sentence..."just some stupid looking Uncharted games and shooters and Movies simulated games where half of the game is just you watchin NOT playing" ...yeah that's some clear unbiased opinion

then the comparing the amount of games from Wii U; a console out a year and a half to one that's been out for 4 months, yeah...that's a legit comparison. though it is concerning about the lackluster sales of the PS4 it's also painfully obvious that the PS4 launch with hardly any games catered to the Japanese market; I think the only games was a port of Dynasty Warriors 8. Like other have said atleast wait another year to see if games like FF XV, MGS:PP , Deep Down, RE7(rumor) KH(though i doubt that will be releasing anytime soon) to make said judgement and atleast a holiday season for Japan as well.



Drakrami said:
Why are you so butthurt ps4 is selling at a rate 3x the wiiU is selling?

Have some dignity and admit to be a sore loser.


He's not the only one that apparently is butthurt. He's talking about Japan. In Japan, it's not selling 3x the wiiu sales, and that is, after all, what this thread is about, right?



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spemanig said:
small44 said:
Final Fantasy,Kindoms Heart,Metal Gear Solid sold the most in console and as long as those games are on ps4 it can't fail


You sound like a Wii U owner. The PS4 is already a failure there.

Kingdom Hearts sold less than 1m in Japan. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

Final Fantasy 13 sold 2 million on the PS3. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in Japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

Metal Gear Solid 4 sold less than 1m in Japan. The PS4 won't outsell the PS3 in japan. That won't "save" the PS4.

NSMBU has outsold both Kingdom Hearts and MGS4 in Japan for perspective. Wii Party U has sold only 100k less than those two in Japan for perspective. FFXV, KH3, and MGS5 will, without a shadow of a doubt, do worse on the PS4 in Japan than any of their predisessors, because the PS4 itself is tracking far behind all of its predisessors.

The PS4 won't bounce back. Those games will slightly boost sales temperily. That's obvious. The PS4 will continue to fail there, though. Just be glad it isn't failing everywhere, like the Wii U is.

Japan doesn't care about Mario Kart either. MK Wii may have sold nearly 4m there, but the Wii U is tracking far behind the Wii. A more accurate comparison is MK DD, which sold less than 1m there. SSBM sold just over 1m there. Those games won't save the Wii U in Japan either.

Console gaming is dead there. That includes the PS4 and the Wii U.


Do you understand that ps3 sold less than 10 million on japan, rigth? So, even as low it may seems to you sell "only" 1-2 million, maybe those 3 games could be responsible for 30% of the entire userbase in japan. Saying that titles that have a attach rate bigger than 0.1 are not system seller seems a little pensimistic to me.

Don't get me wrong, maybe ps4 manage to sell even worse, but general consensus today is that ps3 did well enough to get all third party support that could from japan, and manage to stay on top of the charts,  home console wise.

OT: PS4 will recieve various western games, but almost none eastern focused. Maybe, the first one will appear only next year! Its true however that games with the eastern public in mind seem to release only digital so far(FF MMO, Deep Down), but this says alot about they potential as system sellers.

People could brag about that when the games come, ps4 will leave all that behind, but the problem is: wiiu is in the exact same point! Almost all games that will be released for it this year (from now on) has a great eastern appeal: MK in next week, Bayonetta on summer, hyrle warrior in august, X before the year ends, and SMTxFE for beyond. There a rumor about a devil third and pokken too, but ps4 has theirs unnacounced games too(project beast).

So yeah, for me, wiiu has a bigger chance to get better in japan than in any other place(remeber that gamepad was made because japanese tend to play on handheld at home), and sadly, it seems that ps4 has more chance to underperform badly in japan than in any other place(except for maybe brazil, where it costs 5x times more than outside).



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Justagamer said:
Drakrami said:
Why are you so butthurt ps4 is selling at a rate 3x the wiiU is selling?

Have some dignity and admit to be a sore loser.


He's not the only one that apparently is butthurt. He's talking about Japan. In Japan, it's not selling 3x the wiiu sales, and that is, after all, what this thread is about, right?

Im not going to pretend to have stats because I don't follow Japan's console sales.

December 8, 2012 - Wii U - 1 year, 5 months ~ 17 months

February 22, 2014 - PS4 - 2 months, 28 days ~ 3months

Wii U is currently ~6 times older than the PS4 in Japan. With a 14 month lead the comparing the PS4 to the Wii U in Japan is nonsensical.



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Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Justagamer said:
Drakrami said:
Why are you so butthurt ps4 is selling at a rate 3x the wiiU is selling?

Have some dignity and admit to be a sore loser.


He's not the only one that apparently is butthurt. He's talking about Japan. In Japan, it's not selling 3x the wiiu sales, and that is, after all, what this thread is about, right?

Im not going to pretend to have stats because I don't follow Japan's console sales.

December 8, 2012 - Wii U - 1 year, 5 months ~ 17 months

February 22, 2014 - PS4 - 2 months, 28 days ~ 3months

Wii U is currently ~6 times older than the PS4 in Japan. With a 14 month lead the comparing the PS4 to the Wii U in Japan is nonsensical.


Here you go.. PS4 needs an avg of 18k per week (this includes holiday) for it to catch up with WiiU.

12 week (Media Creat #s)

WiiU: 791k

PS4: 567k

 

WiiU with...

16 weeks: 831k

20 weeks: 887k

24 weeks: 923k

28 weeks: 948k

32 weeks: 990k

36 weeks: 1036k

40 weeks: 1068k



Dr.Henry_Killinger said:
Justagamer said:
Drakrami said:
Why are you so butthurt ps4 is selling at a rate 3x the wiiU is selling?

Have some dignity and admit to be a sore loser.


He's not the only one that apparently is butthurt. He's talking about Japan. In Japan, it's not selling 3x the wiiu sales, and that is, after all, what this thread is about, right?

Im not going to pretend to have stats because I don't follow Japan's console sales.

December 8, 2012 - Wii U - 1 year, 5 months ~ 17 months

February 22, 2014 - PS4 - 2 months, 28 days ~ 3months

Wii U is currently ~6 times older than the PS4 in Japan. With a 14 month lead the comparing the PS4 to the Wii U in Japan is nonsensical.

I was simply pointing out that he seems to be "butthurt"(I really hate that term) too. I think the comparison is somewhat valid, only due to the fact at how amazingly fast the ps4 dropped to sub 10k. I have a ps4, I've enjoyed it quite a bit. I just don't get as defensive about my consoles as some.