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fluky-nintendy on 19 May 2014
kowenicki said:
zumnupy10 said:
kowenicki said:
A price cut or simple redesign will make little to no difference. Its pointless. The last gen of consoles is pretty much saturated by now.


Are they really trying to increase  PS3 sales now ?

If Sony can keep the current demand  for PS3 while reducing manufacture costs.  It's more profits for them, isn't it ?

New model doesn't necessarily means price cut.


Current demand is falling.  Whats hard to understand?  It will be dead next year.

The good thing is that your predictions are terrible (I saw what you did in NPD's thread), so you'll be mistaken about that too..



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rolltide101x on 19 May 2014
kowenicki said:
zumnupy10 said:
kowenicki said:
A price cut or simple redesign will make little to no difference. Its pointless. The last gen of consoles is pretty much saturated by now.


Are they really trying to increase  PS3 sales now ?

If Sony can keep the current demand  for PS3 while reducing manufacture costs.  It's more profits for them, isn't it ?

New model doesn't necessarily means price cut.


Current demand is falling.  Whats hard to understand?  It will be dead next year.

LOL to PS3 dying next year....... No.... Just no....

PS3 is selling 60-70% as much as the One. Will the One be dead in 1.5 years? Dun dun duuuuunnnnnnn /S



rolltide101x on 19 May 2014
poroporo said:
GribbleGrunger said:

 One version would be $99 with no Blu-ray and 500gb HDD

 


Stopped reading there. A 500gb hard drive on its own is worth 59.99. There is no way they can build a ps3 for that amount of money....

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822178252


While you are correct about 99$. Sony gets these things WAAAAY cheaper than we can

 

Also 60$ for a 500 GB HDD is overpriced.....



J_Allard on 19 May 2014
kowenicki said:

Mistake Number 1:  Using VGC sales to compare PS3 and 360

Mistake Number 2: Not looking at actual Shipment data. VERY illuminating if you can be arsed doing some research.

Mistake Number 3: Calling me a fanboy.

Can you elaborate on this for those of us too lazy to do our own research?

Is it another situation where we've been hammered with the fact that PS3 rebounded and outsold 360 but then the shipment data actually shows otherwise?



Madword on 19 May 2014

First thing that is wrong with the article is that this is a device that doesn't have a hard drive, so why would they release it with a hard disk... they already have a product for that... :)

It's possible that a redesign could be coming, but i would be surprised if they brought one out without a BR disk drive.

What I would think would be better would be a cheaper PS3 (with HD), get rid of the 12GB device. Now I know a couple of people here are saying why bother with a redesign, well it makes it cheaper to produce. Which means they can lower the price and still have the same margins. Next comment would be, well last gen is dying... yes that is true but then the cost of the console hasn't decreased as much as it should, and without making the device cheaper, they cannot maintain the margin, reduce the price and sell more.

So after all that, who knows...lol.



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J_Allard on 19 May 2014
kowenicki said:
J_Allard said:
kowenicki said:

Mistake Number 1:  Using VGC sales to compare PS3 and 360

Mistake Number 2: Not looking at actual Shipment data. VERY illuminating if you can be arsed doing some research.

Mistake Number 3: Calling me a fanboy.

Can you elaborate on this for those of us too lazy to do our own research?

Is it another situation where we've been hammered with the fact that PS3 rebounded and outsold 360 but then the shipment data actually shows otherwise?

Yes. The 360 is still ahead, level at the absolute worst.  Its quite clear.

Hilarious.



cookingyourmama on 19 May 2014
fallen said:

PS3 needs a lot of help Sony has really botched it late in life. Obviously 360 outsold PS3 worldwide and this is a big reason why.

PS3 is high priced compared to 360, Apparently Sony is not able to get engineer the cost down, and the new design looks horrible and ugly. It got outsold 2-1 by 360 last NPD and is and has been outsold by 360 worldwide clearly both lifetime and for the last 1-2 years (both recent ship figures and NPD prove this, and of course MS sold 80m before Sony which is proven by their press releases direct from both Sony and Microsoft). All this despite the media endlessly hyping the P3 and titles like Last of Us asnd even nonexistent titles like Last Guardiann the last 3 years (more like 5 years of endless media hype for a game that doesn't even exist in the case of LG, truly amazing).

Lol no, just no. What is it with some people round here saying the 360 has been outselling the PS3 worldwide when it is a fact that all the shipment numbers we've had over the past few years show the PS3 has been outselling the 360, it's like some people live in opposite land.

Since both the PS3 and 360 have been available worldwide, out of the 23 quarters worth of data that can be directly compared the 360 has only managed to outsell the PS3 7 times, so 70% of the time the 360 has failed to outsell the PS3. And in the past 2 years worth of data we have there isn't a single quarter where the 360 managed to outsell the PS3.

January - March 2012: PS3 1.9m / 360 1.4m

April - June 2013: PS3 1.1m / 360 1.0m

July - September 2013: PS3 2.0m / 360 1.2m

On top of that for many years now whatever amount the 360 outsells the PS3 in the USA the PS3 makes up that amount by outselling the 360 in Japan and that's still true to this day. That leaves Europe+the rest of the world where the Playstation has always dominated the 360 and there is zero evidence that magically the 360 is now outselling the PS3.

Both console's sales are slowing down but the PS3 is selling more and the Playstation brand has a history of doing well late into each generation unlike other console brands. Sony reworking the PS3 design and/or cutting the price wouldn't be stupid and would further insure respectable sales late into the gen. The PS3 will go on to sell over 93m lifetime at least.



rolltide101x on 19 May 2014
cookingyourmama said:

Lol no, just no. What is it with some people round here saying the 360 has been outselling the PS3 worldwide when it is a fact that all the shipment numbers we've had over the past few years show the PS3 has been outselling the 360, it's like some people live in opposite land.

Since both the PS3 and 360 have been available worldwide, out of the 23 quarters worth of data that can be directly compared the 360 has only managed to outsell the PS3 7 times, so 70% of the time the 360 has failed to outsell the PS3. And in the past 2 years worth of data we have there isn't a single quarter where the 360 managed to outsell the PS3.

January - March 2012: PS3 1.9m / 360 1.4m

April - June 2013: PS3 1.1m / 360 1.0m

July - September 2013: PS3 2.0m / 360 1.2m

On top of that for many years now whatever amount the 360 outsells the PS3 in the USA the PS3 makes up that amount by outselling the 360 in Japan and that's still true to this day. That leaves Europe+the rest of the world where the Playstation has always dominated the 360 and there is zero evidence that magically the 360 is now outselling the PS3.

Both console's sales are slowing down but the PS3 is selling more and the Playstation brand has a history of doing well late into each generation unlike other console brands. Sony reworking the PS3 design and/or cutting the price wouldn't be stupid and would further insure respectable sales late into the gen. The PS3 will go on to sell over 93m lifetime at least.

Agreed, it will stop somewhere between 90 and 100M. Apparently they keep forgetting this..

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-gTLMy0sm3cQ/UlWYm59RfTI/AAAAAAAAH70/Hk02O4Vzjcw/s1600/Fifa+14+ps2+%282%29.jpg



Booh! on 19 May 2014
kowenicki said:
Burek said:
kowenicki said:

Different gens, different world, different consoles.

The shipments show us how this is panning out.  The PS3 and 360 are dying rapidly (aligned the PS3 is dying quicker).  Emerging markets want the ONE and PS4 now, they arent the second class economies they once where.  They will ship very low numbers this FY, almost nothing next FY and then be discontinued.

Which is very obvious from the fact that it's outselling X360 almost 2:1 on weekly basis globally. And by the fact tthat there are still games coming out for PS3 exclusively, announced even well in to 2015, while it's been over a year that X360 had any exclusive games, and is sentenced to piggybacking off it's younger brother (Titanfall, PvZ...)

Of course that you would argue otherwise, because of your fanboy sunglasses being so tinted you fail to see anything besides color green.

PS3 still has 3-5 years of sales ahead of it, and it will probably reach 90M before it's finally phased out.

Mistake Number 1:  Using VGC sales to compare PS3 and 360

Right.

kowenicki said:
 

Mistake Number 2: Not looking at actual Shipment data. VERY illuminating if you can be arsed doing some research.

Right. Sony shipped 14.6 million home consoles this fiscal year and sold "over" 7 million PS4 ( http://www.joystiq.com/2014/05/14/sony-forecasts-fifth-annual-loss-in-six-years/ ), so no less than 6 million PS3, more probably about 7 million. They forecast 17 million shipped home consoles for the next fiscal year, so, probably, about 5 million PS3, given their PS4 production capacity. 360 shipments (millions) in the same time frame: 1.0 (Ap-Jn 2013), 1.2 (Jl-Sp 2013), 1.72 (Oc-Dc 2013), 0.8 (Q1 2014, less than a million) Total: 4.72, that's probably a couple million less than the PS3.

Sources: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=703441 - http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2014/01/microsoft-reports-3-9-million-xbox-one-shipments-in-2013/ - http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=807448

kowenicki said:

Mistake Number 3: Calling me a fanboy.

Riii... naaah, that's really spot on.



LordPhil on 19 May 2014

I like the slim version better than the latest revision. If a new version comes out, I hope it's more aesthetically pleasing.

On that note, I wonder if they are able to shrink it down to the ps2 slims size.