So Microsoft knowing most of the systems they were selling to consumers were faulty wasnt arrogance at all huh?

And MS basically told their fans to stick with the 360 if they didn't like the X1 policies. So I think this evens out.

With Sony there was more people who acted like assholes, with MS it was mainly Don Mattrick who clearly didn't give a shit because he was leaving anyways

I voted Sony I love them to death, but come on :P. Also I never cared for Microsoft lol.

Sony's arrogance was justifiable to a certain extent, coming from the ps2 era. Microsoft on the other hand, well...

Nintendo tops both in the mid 90s and again in 2010-present day.

But out the two I'd say and have voted Sony.

MS are just trying to do what they always set out to achieve from day one, control the front room with an entertainment device the same way they dominate desktop PCs. Kinect was just their Trojan Horse.

Sony with the PS3 threw away the massive massive advantage they held over everyone with the PS2.

Quotes people, we need quotes.

at least MS didnt say the PS4 was a PS3.5 

And MS said to stick with 360 if you don't have good internet. A lot of people either live in rural areas so just don't get internet, period (that's a big middle finger to them) or can't afford good internet, on top of other billing priorities (you know, mortgage/rent, electricity....the essentials). In a way, that is like saying "get a second job to afford good internet to play XBone". That may be a reach on the second point, but I don't think it's stretching it too far. So in one statement, MS told consumers to screw off....twice.

And if someone says "if you can't afford internet, you shouldn't be playing video games"...you should be able to play video games without internet. End of story.

That being said, Sony made their arrogant statements from a position of absolute dominance. 250M+ units sold between the last two gens, and the competition, total, sold less than 100M, across the Saturn, Dreamcast, N64, GCN, and Xbox. Although what they were trying to sell was ludicrous, the arrogance in of itself was justified, for lack of a better term. Like, if Jordan said he was the best, he'd have the proof to back it up. MS, on the other hand, has no grounds to make such statements

Sony took 3 years to end that arrogance. Microsoft did stopped it before the XBO even launched. Sony.