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Forums - Sales Discussion - Xbox one will catch up soon with PS4 and then outsell it in the USA

Damagon on 01 June 2014
freedquaker said:

Here is a rundown of the market share between PS4 and XB1

From the beginning...

 

  XB1 & PS4 Only         XB1 & PS4 Only    
PS4 - Cumulative Market Share     XB1 - Cumulative Market Share  
Week Global US EU Japan   Week Global US EU Japan
ESTIMATE 67-76% 55-65% 75-85% >90%   ESTIMATE 24-33% 35-45% 15-25% <10%
4-Jan-14 58.9% 51.7% 68.6% -   4-Jan-14 41.1% 48.3% 31.4% -
11-Jan-14 59.2% 51.9% 69.0% -   11-Jan-14 40.8% 48.1% 31.0% -
18-Jan-14 59.5% 52.0% 69.3% -   18-Jan-14 40.5% 48.0% 30.7% -
25-Jan-14 59.8% 52.3% 69.6% -   25-Jan-14 40.2% 47.7% 30.4% -
1-Feb-14 60.1% 52.6% 70.0% -   1-Feb-14 39.9% 47.4% 30.0% -
8-Feb-14 60.5% 52.9% 70.4% -   8-Feb-14 39.5% 47.1% 29.6% -
15-Feb-14 60.7% 53.0% 70.7% -   15-Feb-14 39.3% 47.0% 29.3% -
22-Feb-14 62.2% 53.1% 70.9% 100.0%   22-Feb-14 37.8% 46.9% 29.1% 0.0%
1-Mar-14 62.5% 53.0% 71.1% 100.0%   1-Mar-14 37.5% 47.0% 28.9% 0.0%
8-Mar-14 62.4% 53.0% 71.0% 100.0%   8-Mar-14 37.6% 47.0% 29.0% 0.0%
15-Mar-14 62.0% 52.5% 70.6% 100.0%   15-Mar-14 38.0% 47.5% 29.4% 0.0%
22-Mar-14 62.2% 52.7% 70.7% 100.0%   22-Mar-14 37.8% 47.3% 29.3% 0.0%
29-Mar-14 62.4% 52.8% 70.9% 100.0%   29-Mar-14 37.6% 47.2% 29.1% 0.0%
5-Apr-14 62.5% 52.9% 71.1% 100.0%   5-Apr-14 37.5% 47.1% 28.9% 0.0%
12-Apr-14 62.5% 52.8% 71.1% 100.0%   12-Apr-14 37.5% 47.2% 28.9% 0.0%
19-Apr-14 62.7% 53.1% 71.3% 100.0%   19-Apr-14 37.3% 46.9% 28.7% 0.0%
26-Apr-14 62.8% 53.2% 71.4% 100.0%   26-Apr-14 37.2% 46.8% 28.6% 0.0%
3-May-14 62.9% 53.3% 71.5% 100.0%   3-May-14 37.1% 46.7% 28.5% 0.0%
10-May-14 63.0% 53.3% 71.6% 100.0%   10-May-14 37.0% 46.7% 28.4% 0.0%
17-May-14 63.1% 53.4% 71.7% 100.0%   17-May-14 36.9% 46.6% 28.3% 0.0%

 

Annual market share

 

  XB1 & PS4 Only         XB1 & PS4 Only    
PS4 - Year to Date Market Share     XB1 - Year to Date Market Share  
Week Global US EU Japan   Week Global US EU Japan
ESTIMATE 67-76% 55-65% 75-85% >90%   ESTIMATE 24-33% 35-45% 15-25% <10%
4-Jan-14 61.6% 48.0% 73.7% -   4-Jan-14 38.4% 52.0% 26.3% -
11-Jan-14 63.8% 51.5% 75.1% -   11-Jan-14 36.2% 48.5% 24.9% -
18-Jan-14 65.2% 53.1% 76.2% -   18-Jan-14 34.8% 46.9% 23.8% -
25-Jan-14 66.3% 55.1% 76.8% -   25-Jan-14 33.7% 44.9% 23.2% -
1-Feb-14 67.3% 56.9% 77.5% -   1-Feb-14 32.7% 43.1% 22.5% -
8-Feb-14 68.2% 58.0% 78.4% -   8-Feb-14 31.8% 42.0% 21.6% -
15-Feb-14 68.6% 58.2% 78.9% -   15-Feb-14 31.4% 41.8% 21.1% -
22-Feb-14 73.0% 58.2% 79.2% 100.0%   22-Feb-14 27.0% 41.8% 20.8% 0.0%
1-Mar-14 72.9% 57.3% 79.1% 100.0%   1-Mar-14 27.1% 42.7% 20.9% 0.0%
8-Mar-14 71.4% 56.5% 78.3% 100.0%   8-Mar-14 28.6% 43.5% 21.7% 0.0%
15-Mar-14 69.3% 54.2% 76.5% 100.0%   15-Mar-14 30.7% 45.8% 23.5% 0.0%
22-Mar-14 69.2% 54.8% 76.3% 100.0%   22-Mar-14 30.8% 45.2% 23.7% 0.0%
29-Mar-14 69.2% 54.9% 76.4% 100.0%   29-Mar-14 30.8% 45.1% 23.6% 0.0%
5-Apr-14 69.1% 55.0% 76.6% 100.0%   5-Apr-14 30.9% 45.0% 23.4% 0.0%
12-Apr-14 68.7% 54.6% 76.4% 100.0%   12-Apr-14 31.3% 45.4% 23.6% 0.0%
19-Apr-14 69.0% 55.4% 76.6% 100.0%   19-Apr-14 31.0% 44.6% 23.4% 0.0%
26-Apr-14 69.0% 55.5% 76.6% 100.0%   26-Apr-14 31.0% 44.5% 23.4% 0.0%
3-May-14 69.0% 55.7% 76.6% 100.0%   3-May-14 31.0% 44.3% 23.4% 0.0%
10-May-14 69.0% 55.8% 76.8% 100.0%   10-May-14 31.0% 44.2% 23.2% 0.0%
17-May-14 69.0% 55.9% 76.9% 100.0%   17-May-14 31.0% 44.1% 23.1% 0.0%

 

Summary

In US, PS4 has gradually increased from 51.7% to 53.4% overall, and from 48% to 55.9% this year.

In US, XB1 has gradually decreased from 48.3% to 46.6% overall, and from 52% to 44.1% this year.

OH FFS, Please take those fancy charts and solid data with you . We only use made up numbers and wishful thinking ITT.



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TheDrill on 01 June 2014
freedquaker said:

Here is a rundown of the market share between PS4 and XB1

From the beginning...

 

  XB1 & PS4 Only         XB1 & PS4 Only    
PS4 - Cumulative Market Share     XB1 - Cumulative Market Share  
Week Global US EU Japan   Week Global US EU Japan
ESTIMATE 67-76% 55-65% 75-85% >90%   ESTIMATE 24-33% 35-45% 15-25% <10%
4-Jan-14 58.9% 51.7% 68.6% -   4-Jan-14 41.1% 48.3% 31.4% -
11-Jan-14 59.2% 51.9% 69.0% -   11-Jan-14 40.8% 48.1% 31.0% -
18-Jan-14 59.5% 52.0% 69.3% -   18-Jan-14 40.5% 48.0% 30.7% -
25-Jan-14 59.8% 52.3% 69.6% -   25-Jan-14 40.2% 47.7% 30.4% -
1-Feb-14 60.1% 52.6% 70.0% -   1-Feb-14 39.9% 47.4% 30.0% -
8-Feb-14 60.5% 52.9% 70.4% -   8-Feb-14 39.5% 47.1% 29.6% -
15-Feb-14 60.7% 53.0% 70.7% -   15-Feb-14 39.3% 47.0% 29.3% -
22-Feb-14 62.2% 53.1% 70.9% 100.0%   22-Feb-14 37.8% 46.9% 29.1% 0.0%
1-Mar-14 62.5% 53.0% 71.1% 100.0%   1-Mar-14 37.5% 47.0% 28.9% 0.0%
8-Mar-14 62.4% 53.0% 71.0% 100.0%   8-Mar-14 37.6% 47.0% 29.0% 0.0%
15-Mar-14 62.0% 52.5% 70.6% 100.0%   15-Mar-14 38.0% 47.5% 29.4% 0.0%
22-Mar-14 62.2% 52.7% 70.7% 100.0%   22-Mar-14 37.8% 47.3% 29.3% 0.0%
29-Mar-14 62.4% 52.8% 70.9% 100.0%   29-Mar-14 37.6% 47.2% 29.1% 0.0%
5-Apr-14 62.5% 52.9% 71.1% 100.0%   5-Apr-14 37.5% 47.1% 28.9% 0.0%
12-Apr-14 62.5% 52.8% 71.1% 100.0%   12-Apr-14 37.5% 47.2% 28.9% 0.0%
19-Apr-14 62.7% 53.1% 71.3% 100.0%   19-Apr-14 37.3% 46.9% 28.7% 0.0%
26-Apr-14 62.8% 53.2% 71.4% 100.0%   26-Apr-14 37.2% 46.8% 28.6% 0.0%
3-May-14 62.9% 53.3% 71.5% 100.0%   3-May-14 37.1% 46.7% 28.5% 0.0%
10-May-14 63.0% 53.3% 71.6% 100.0%   10-May-14 37.0% 46.7% 28.4% 0.0%
17-May-14 63.1% 53.4% 71.7% 100.0%   17-May-14 36.9% 46.6% 28.3% 0.0%

 

Annual market share

 

  XB1 & PS4 Only         XB1 & PS4 Only    
PS4 - Year to Date Market Share     XB1 - Year to Date Market Share  
Week Global US EU Japan   Week Global US EU Japan
ESTIMATE 67-76% 55-65% 75-85% >90%   ESTIMATE 24-33% 35-45% 15-25% <10%
4-Jan-14 61.6% 48.0% 73.7% -   4-Jan-14 38.4% 52.0% 26.3% -
11-Jan-14 63.8% 51.5% 75.1% -   11-Jan-14 36.2% 48.5% 24.9% -
18-Jan-14 65.2% 53.1% 76.2% -   18-Jan-14 34.8% 46.9% 23.8% -
25-Jan-14 66.3% 55.1% 76.8% -   25-Jan-14 33.7% 44.9% 23.2% -
1-Feb-14 67.3% 56.9% 77.5% -   1-Feb-14 32.7% 43.1% 22.5% -
8-Feb-14 68.2% 58.0% 78.4% -   8-Feb-14 31.8% 42.0% 21.6% -
15-Feb-14 68.6% 58.2% 78.9% -   15-Feb-14 31.4% 41.8% 21.1% -
22-Feb-14 73.0% 58.2% 79.2% 100.0%   22-Feb-14 27.0% 41.8% 20.8% 0.0%
1-Mar-14 72.9% 57.3% 79.1% 100.0%   1-Mar-14 27.1% 42.7% 20.9% 0.0%
8-Mar-14 71.4% 56.5% 78.3% 100.0%   8-Mar-14 28.6% 43.5% 21.7% 0.0%
15-Mar-14 69.3% 54.2% 76.5% 100.0%   15-Mar-14 30.7% 45.8% 23.5% 0.0%
22-Mar-14 69.2% 54.8% 76.3% 100.0%   22-Mar-14 30.8% 45.2% 23.7% 0.0%
29-Mar-14 69.2% 54.9% 76.4% 100.0%   29-Mar-14 30.8% 45.1% 23.6% 0.0%
5-Apr-14 69.1% 55.0% 76.6% 100.0%   5-Apr-14 30.9% 45.0% 23.4% 0.0%
12-Apr-14 68.7% 54.6% 76.4% 100.0%   12-Apr-14 31.3% 45.4% 23.6% 0.0%
19-Apr-14 69.0% 55.4% 76.6% 100.0%   19-Apr-14 31.0% 44.6% 23.4% 0.0%
26-Apr-14 69.0% 55.5% 76.6% 100.0%   26-Apr-14 31.0% 44.5% 23.4% 0.0%
3-May-14 69.0% 55.7% 76.6% 100.0%   3-May-14 31.0% 44.3% 23.4% 0.0%
10-May-14 69.0% 55.8% 76.8% 100.0%   10-May-14 31.0% 44.2% 23.2% 0.0%
17-May-14 69.0% 55.9% 76.9% 100.0%   17-May-14 31.0% 44.1% 23.1% 0.0%

 

Summary

In US, PS4 has gradually increased from 51.7% to 53.4% overall, and from 48% to 55.9% this year.

In US, XB1 has gradually decreased from 48.3% to 46.6% overall, and from 52% to 44.1% this year.

That doesn't discredit at all what I have said, you can see for yourself how close ps4 and X1 numbers are in US.



BeElite on 01 June 2014
TheDrill said:

That doesn't discredit at all what I have said, you can see for yourself how close ps4 and X1 numbers are in US.

Reality discredits everything you say.   Last month PS4 out sold X1 by nearly double in US, may ndp will be ever worse.  In case you havent noticed things are only getting worse for X1 not better, any hopes for recovery and the unlikly catch up are just that hopes. 

nothing anywhere points to a x1 recovery, in case you havent noticed. 



Aura7541 on 01 June 2014
TheDrill said:
Arkaign said:
The gap is already about 500k. Probably a lot more after May NPD hits. So 10k/WK x 50 weeks minimum to close gap. How many weeks left in 2014 again? :)

The gap will hit 1m+ by 12/31/14


I bet it won't.

The gap will Shrink to ~ 100k by end of 2014.

No it won't. And you still haven't elaborated why and how. Merely repeating the same narrative over and over again won't magically make your argument any less wrong than it already is... -__-"

PS4 will be getting The Last of Us Remastered, Driveclub, Samurai Warriors 4, Guilty Gears, The Witness, Pixeljunk Shooter, Secret Ponchos, Hotline Miami, Planetside 2, War Thunder, Deep Down, and possibly more this year. Next year, the PS4 will be getting MLB: The Show 15, The Order: 1886, Shadow of the Beast, Rime, Everybody's Gone to the Rapture, Uncharted, and other unannounced titles. On top of that, PS4 will always get the advantage on multiplatforms. Preorders for the PS4 version of Destiny, for example, are substantially higher than the X1 counterpart.



Aura7541 on 01 June 2014
TheDrill said:
freedquaker said:

Here is a rundown of the market share between PS4 and XB1

From the beginning...

 

  XB1 & PS4 Only         XB1 & PS4 Only    
PS4 - Cumulative Market Share     XB1 - Cumulative Market Share  
Week Global US EU Japan   Week Global US EU Japan
ESTIMATE 67-76% 55-65% 75-85% >90%   ESTIMATE 24-33% 35-45% 15-25% <10%
4-Jan-14 58.9% 51.7% 68.6% -   4-Jan-14 41.1% 48.3% 31.4% -
11-Jan-14 59.2% 51.9% 69.0% -   11-Jan-14 40.8% 48.1% 31.0% -
18-Jan-14 59.5% 52.0% 69.3% -   18-Jan-14 40.5% 48.0% 30.7% -
25-Jan-14 59.8% 52.3% 69.6% -   25-Jan-14 40.2% 47.7% 30.4% -
1-Feb-14 60.1% 52.6% 70.0% -   1-Feb-14 39.9% 47.4% 30.0% -
8-Feb-14 60.5% 52.9% 70.4% -   8-Feb-14 39.5% 47.1% 29.6% -
15-Feb-14 60.7% 53.0% 70.7% -   15-Feb-14 39.3% 47.0% 29.3% -
22-Feb-14 62.2% 53.1% 70.9% 100.0%   22-Feb-14 37.8% 46.9% 29.1% 0.0%
1-Mar-14 62.5% 53.0% 71.1% 100.0%   1-Mar-14 37.5% 47.0% 28.9% 0.0%
8-Mar-14 62.4% 53.0% 71.0% 100.0%   8-Mar-14 37.6% 47.0% 29.0% 0.0%
15-Mar-14 62.0% 52.5% 70.6% 100.0%   15-Mar-14 38.0% 47.5% 29.4% 0.0%
22-Mar-14 62.2% 52.7% 70.7% 100.0%   22-Mar-14 37.8% 47.3% 29.3% 0.0%
29-Mar-14 62.4% 52.8% 70.9% 100.0%   29-Mar-14 37.6% 47.2% 29.1% 0.0%
5-Apr-14 62.5% 52.9% 71.1% 100.0%   5-Apr-14 37.5% 47.1% 28.9% 0.0%
12-Apr-14 62.5% 52.8% 71.1% 100.0%   12-Apr-14 37.5% 47.2% 28.9% 0.0%
19-Apr-14 62.7% 53.1% 71.3% 100.0%   19-Apr-14 37.3% 46.9% 28.7% 0.0%
26-Apr-14 62.8% 53.2% 71.4% 100.0%   26-Apr-14 37.2% 46.8% 28.6% 0.0%
3-May-14 62.9% 53.3% 71.5% 100.0%   3-May-14 37.1% 46.7% 28.5% 0.0%
10-May-14 63.0% 53.3% 71.6% 100.0%   10-May-14 37.0% 46.7% 28.4% 0.0%
17-May-14 63.1% 53.4% 71.7% 100.0%   17-May-14 36.9% 46.6% 28.3% 0.0%

 

Annual market share

 

  XB1 & PS4 Only         XB1 & PS4 Only    
PS4 - Year to Date Market Share     XB1 - Year to Date Market Share  
Week Global US EU Japan   Week Global US EU Japan
ESTIMATE 67-76% 55-65% 75-85% >90%   ESTIMATE 24-33% 35-45% 15-25% <10%
4-Jan-14 61.6% 48.0% 73.7% -   4-Jan-14 38.4% 52.0% 26.3% -
11-Jan-14 63.8% 51.5% 75.1% -   11-Jan-14 36.2% 48.5% 24.9% -
18-Jan-14 65.2% 53.1% 76.2% -   18-Jan-14 34.8% 46.9% 23.8% -
25-Jan-14 66.3% 55.1% 76.8% -   25-Jan-14 33.7% 44.9% 23.2% -
1-Feb-14 67.3% 56.9% 77.5% -   1-Feb-14 32.7% 43.1% 22.5% -
8-Feb-14 68.2% 58.0% 78.4% -   8-Feb-14 31.8% 42.0% 21.6% -
15-Feb-14 68.6% 58.2% 78.9% -   15-Feb-14 31.4% 41.8% 21.1% -
22-Feb-14 73.0% 58.2% 79.2% 100.0%   22-Feb-14 27.0% 41.8% 20.8% 0.0%
1-Mar-14 72.9% 57.3% 79.1% 100.0%   1-Mar-14 27.1% 42.7% 20.9% 0.0%
8-Mar-14 71.4% 56.5% 78.3% 100.0%   8-Mar-14 28.6% 43.5% 21.7% 0.0%
15-Mar-14 69.3% 54.2% 76.5% 100.0%   15-Mar-14 30.7% 45.8% 23.5% 0.0%
22-Mar-14 69.2% 54.8% 76.3% 100.0%   22-Mar-14 30.8% 45.2% 23.7% 0.0%
29-Mar-14 69.2% 54.9% 76.4% 100.0%   29-Mar-14 30.8% 45.1% 23.6% 0.0%
5-Apr-14 69.1% 55.0% 76.6% 100.0%   5-Apr-14 30.9% 45.0% 23.4% 0.0%
12-Apr-14 68.7% 54.6% 76.4% 100.0%   12-Apr-14 31.3% 45.4% 23.6% 0.0%
19-Apr-14 69.0% 55.4% 76.6% 100.0%   19-Apr-14 31.0% 44.6% 23.4% 0.0%
26-Apr-14 69.0% 55.5% 76.6% 100.0%   26-Apr-14 31.0% 44.5% 23.4% 0.0%
3-May-14 69.0% 55.7% 76.6% 100.0%   3-May-14 31.0% 44.3% 23.4% 0.0%
10-May-14 69.0% 55.8% 76.8% 100.0%   10-May-14 31.0% 44.2% 23.2% 0.0%
17-May-14 69.0% 55.9% 76.9% 100.0%   17-May-14 31.0% 44.1% 23.1% 0.0%

 

Summary

In US, PS4 has gradually increased from 51.7% to 53.4% overall, and from 48% to 55.9% this year.

In US, XB1 has gradually decreased from 48.3% to 46.6% overall, and from 52% to 44.1% this year.

That doesn't discredit at all what I have said, you can see for yourself how close ps4 and X1 numbers are in US.

Yes, it does. Just because you don't like data doesn't mean the data is wrong. You need to realize that what you want to happen and what is actually happening are two entirely different things.



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TheDrill on 01 June 2014
the-pi-guy said:
TheDrill said:

That doesn't discredit at all what I have said, you can see for yourself how close ps4 and X1 numbers are in US.

What you said doesn't at all discredit the fact that the gap is getting larger in the U.S.  

It's still very small, and easily reversible once X1 gets a price cut.



TheDrill on 01 June 2014
BeElite said:
TheDrill said:
 

That doesn't discredit at all what I have said, you can see for yourself how close ps4 and X1 numbers are in US.

Reality discredits everything you say.   Last month PS4 out sold X1 by nearly double in US, may ndp will be ever worse.  In case you havent noticed things are only getting worse for X1 not better, any hopes for recovery and the unlikly catch up are just that hopes. 

nothing anywhere points to a x1 recovery, in case you havent noticed. 


I am not talking about a single month, but overall.

No matter how good the PS4 seemed to sell a few weeks, the facts are:

X1 is very close in sales to PS4 in the US

X360 was very strong last generation in US and UK, and latest charts show that it's still the case

While selling less units Titanfall still managed to sell a lot more than Infamous did, or any other game, this encourages devs to devel exclusively for X1, as their games sell a lot  better there.



GribbleGrunger on 01 June 2014
TheDrill said:


I am fabricating figures? how convenient of you to claim that VGchartz numbers are not accurate, so how much more innacurate can they get? I have said that even if there is a 10 % error, it still close enough for the X1 to rebounce back, of course you claim as if X1 has been massacred in the US (hint, it wasn't)

For God's sake people, stop answering this guy. He's clearly not reading anything you type.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


DD_Bwest on 01 June 2014

this really needs to be locked or atleast you people need to stop feeding him



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Aura7541 on 01 June 2014
TheDrill said:
BeElite said:
TheDrill said:
 

That doesn't discredit at all what I have said, you can see for yourself how close ps4 and X1 numbers are in US.

Reality discredits everything you say.   Last month PS4 out sold X1 by nearly double in US, may ndp will be ever worse.  In case you havent noticed things are only getting worse for X1 not better, any hopes for recovery and the unlikly catch up are just that hopes. 

nothing anywhere points to a x1 recovery, in case you havent noticed. 


I am not talking about a single month, but overall.

No matter how good the PS4 seemed to sell a few weeks, the facts are:

X1 is very close in sales to PS4 in the US

X360 was very strong last generation in US and UK, and latest charts show that it's still the case

While selling less units Titanfall still managed to sell a lot more than Infamous did, or any other game, this encourages devs to devel exclusively for X1, as their games sell a lot  better there.

X1 is not close. The gap in the US is larger than 500k. BenV hinted that in May, the gap is very large. We're talking a 100k+ gap for May, so that'll make the gap 600k+. That is not small at all! The X1 couldn't even outsell the PS4 when riding the Titanfall hype train. Even if the X1 managed to outsell the PS4 in June, the gap will be incredibly small (e.g. 20k). After that, the PS4 will resuming outselling the X1 because there's nothing else that justfies purchasing an X1.

But hey, let's just pretend that the X1 outsells the PS4 10k each week for the rest of 2014. 7 months = 28 weeks, so the X1 will shrink the gap by 280k. That's LESS than HALF of the 600k+ gap.

360's performance is not indicative of how the X1 will do. We have already seen that now that the PS4 is leading the X1, outselling it every month except for December because of supply constraints. Also, the 360's numbers were inflated by RROD. Before MS offered extended warranties, the 11.6 million 360's sold prior to the extension were already faulty.

Titanfall is a cross-platform game. Its sales benefit from PC and 360. Your argument is invalid.