Hynad said:
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"react this way", lol do not be a drama queen please.
They are adjusting to the consumers, not to Sony...
Hynad said:
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"react this way", lol do not be a drama queen please.
They are adjusting to the consumers, not to Sony...
Imaginedvl said:
"react this way", lol do not be a drama queen please. They are adjusting to the consumers, not to Sony... |
Well it's kind of both... is consumers are buying Sony, you are adjusting to what is working for your competitors. *All* companies do this, MS and Sony both brought out motion controls after the success of the wii... even though unfortunately for Sony they had already had them in development and didnt really believe in it until Nintendo did it successfully.
The biggest problem for companies is copying a strategy which might be on a downward spiral, for example motion controls/kinect... they all rushed to do it, and you could say they had some success (both Sony and MS) but it was already on a downward path. I see VR being the same... especially if all three companies end up doing it, whoever is last will lose :)
Nintendo have been slow to react to the changing face of games, not having achievements, party chat, online infrastructure, no HD and stupid user friend codes, is just not modern.. they need to get the basics right, but come up with new ways of presenting it. I mean look at Sony and MS bringing video recording to the massives or twitch TV... pretty cool stuff.
disolitude said: Sony's playbook? Doubt Microsoft is looking to lose money on their gaming division... |
Pretty sure MS wrote that part of the playbook.
It should have read-Microsoft pulls out old 360 playbook for game changing turn around. Sony copied the 360 PB with PS4 because the PS3's PB was junk. MS had a winning game plan with the 360 and they tried to change too drastically. Like being the 360 2.0 was a bad thing. Innovate while keeping it familiar should have been their montra from the start. They had the games down pat but the console launch was a big mess. Now they will come out at E3 games blazing and all will be forgiven. Just watch.
Never forget Sun Tzu's Art of War, where he said:
"Always play dead for the first 6 months, and allow the enemy to kick your ass consistently and emphatically, before merely turning around and copying what they do, without actually introducing something new that may throw them off their game."
J_Allard said:
You like to forget anyway, since it suits your agenda. But silly, he's talking about a gaming division in financial reports. And the answer is no, they have the E&D division. |
Disolitude was looking to downplay the fact that Microsoft has used Sony playbook for two out the three generations they've existed to survive with the Xbox.
theprof00 said:
Pretty sure MS wrote that part of the playbook. |
The DRM part with EA? LOL
S.T.A.G.E. said:
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the losing money part. xbox division 3b in the red to this day
S.T.A.G.E. said: Disolitude was looking to downplay the fact that Microsoft has used Sony playbook for two out the three generations they've existed to survive with the Xbox. |
Seems to me he was simply taking a shot at Sony's financials. Everyone loves low hanging fruit.
Either way your response was off the mark. And idk, each company has borrowed elements and features from the other but it seems each forges their own path in the industry. Though it is funny how you constantly rail on MS for how different an approach they take compared to Sony when it comes to making games and greedy American practices and blah blah and yet now MS has actually been "using Sony playbook" for a majority of their time in the market. Interesting.
S.T.A.G.E. said:
Microsofts intro into the console race only brought PC gaming to consoles. Microsoft hasnt made a game themselves that was worth a damn outside of Crackdown, Fable, Forza and Project Gotham. Halo would've existed without them, Gears would've existed without them and PC games were already starting to make their way to console gaming since the PS1/N64 era. Microsoft taught Sony and Sega how to create what they've always been wanting to create for years. A online gaming os thats closed and unified to create a community. Thats Microsofts claim to fame...OS software. They were doing that for Sega before they even joined the industry. Sony made them squirm because they threatend the PC market with the PS1. Outside of the online respect, Microsoft is trying to basically replace everything that makes Sony what they are in front of the western gamer. Problem is they are extremely dependent on third party to accomplish this. |
Sony pushed blu-ray onto the playstation to help them win the next format wars. They forced the cost onto consumers in order to profit from it. You actually do not recall the whole people will work 2 jobs just to afford a PS3, and stuff like next gen doesn't start unless we say it does. Yea, it really shows how Sony always only had the gamers in mind for all that.
MS has made plenty of games worth a damn; you yourself list a few. Halo may have existed, and it may have complete failed without MS behind it. Gears probably would have existed, but we don't know in what state. You speak in what may have been, but there is no way to really argue that one way or the other because it didn't happen that way. MS has done plenty for console gaming. Their presence help drive innovation and value; that is why have multiple competitors in the market is a good thing.
Sony is extremely dependent on third parties as well. If you think otherwise, you are sorely mistaken. The best selling games on both these consoles are third party.