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gergroy said:

what part are you talking about?  The part where people paid the same price later on but got more with their system?  The part where the 60 gig model that people paid $600 for dropped to $500?   

Look, we can do this dance all day, but I'm pretty much done with it.  So I'll just say this.  I don't see how you can even debate that early adopters (of any technology) don't get screwed.  Technology improves over time.  If you jumped in on the ps3 when it first came out, then you paid double the price of people who bought it two years later.  For double the price, you got clunky looking system, that had less hard drive space, was less reliable, controllers didn't have rumble, less game library, etc. but you did get BC (although you could buy 3 ps2's with the money you saved by waiting two years).  

I could say the same thing about early adopters for the 360.  Same thing for early adopters of the iphone or ipad.  Same thing for early adopters hd tv or 3d tv's.  You pay more for inferior products by jumping in early.  Some people don't care and just want to get their hands on the technology as soon as possible.  Thats fine, I'm kind of that way, but I'm perfectly aware that I'm getting screwed in the deal.  

I just don't see how you can't see that...  Anyways, thats my two cents.  good day sir!

At launch there wa a 400 and 500 entry price. a year later there was still those two entry points. if thats getting screwed over then everyone who has bought and model besides the 500gb has been screwed over. for ms at launch there wasa 500 entry price. 5monthss later 450 two monhs after that 400. Not ony that but sony offered bundles frm the very begining on the ps3. MS just started bundling forza andtitanfall



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sales2099 said:
sub-zero-TM said:
Lol Megaton? really?

Soooooo you don't think addressing 4 cons in one day: price gap, unbundling kinect, gold paywall for apps, and games for gold for X1 counts as mega news?

Some people are just hard to please. If you ever get excited for something smaller by comparison, im totz calling you out


Maybe because some gamers were already please with this consumable item called a PlayStation4.  But please don't take my word for it.  I'm just going by the trend of the leading console sales and the competiton trying to catch up to it.  So in comparison, this "megaton" is at best relative.



michael_stutzer said:
Its horrible news. All the software that is being developed now for Kinect... I am truly sad for all the developers out there.


fixed for you.  ;)



LivingMetal said:
sales2099 said:
sub-zero-TM said:
Lol Megaton? really?

Soooooo you don't think addressing 4 cons in one day: price gap, unbundling kinect, gold paywall for apps, and games for gold for X1 counts as mega news?

Some people are just hard to please. If you ever get excited for something smaller by comparison, im totz calling you out


Maybe because some gamers were already please with this consumable item called a PlayStation4.  But please don't take my word for it.  I'm just going by the trend of the leading console sales and the competiton trying to catch up to it.  So in comparison, this "megaton" is at best relative.

Yawn. Playing the global sales card is every PS fans get-out-of-jail-free card in every debate. I can see it now. Sigh.....



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Wagram said:
I suppose Microsoft can toss all those spare Kinects in that ET landfill now.

If I hadn't laughed very hard, I would have banned you for that trollishness!



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Machiavellian said:
SoftHimbeer said:
Machiavellian said:
Shinobi-san said:
kowenicki said:
Shortiloe said:
lawl, Launch-buyers are fucked and I guess very pissed, if that happens.


why?

I'm happy as a pig in shit and love my kinect enabled xbox.


You really dont see the reason why some early adopters would be pissed?

No, I do not see why any early adopter would be pissed.  Its the reason you are a early adopter.  For people that purchased a X1, with the knowledge that sales were not that great, why would you be pissed.  If you did not have the patience to wait then the only only person to be pissed at is yourself.

 


Oh come on
PS4 early adopters don't get the finger and no one could have thought the Xbox One would turn out the way it did.
People bought the X1 for whatever the reason with the believe they had in the 360 and got an inferior product which was more expensive.Only half a year later you get the option to save money on the console officially(the X1 is available for 400+tons of games anyway) cause they exclude the unwanted Kinect and the future of gaming(lol) which the whole console was built around.

This won't make people happy.
And if they reduce the price they should have dropped down to 300-350$ - You still get inferior versions of every game.

Where are people getting screwed if you purchased the X1 with kinnect.  If you did not want the console with Kinect why would you purchase it in the first place.  Almost a year later people get another option and there is cause for getting upset.  So when Christmas role around and there will be bundles and other incentive to purchase a console people will be upset about that.  People were suppose to be upset about the temporary Titanfall bundle and price cut as well.  Basically what you are saying is that anytime something happens after you purchase your highend device you should get upset.

@Bold:  Not sure why MS would do something like that.  DId Sony do the same thing when the PS3 was getting inferior 3rd party games.  Why would a business even think like that but then again no busines would.

You can be damned sure Sony would have undercut Microsoft during the worst PS3 years if they hadn't had such insane BoM costs.

And yes, XB1 should be $349 with a game to jump-start competition. $449 with both Kinect and a free AAA game wasn't enough to get things going, what makes people think $399 with no kinect and no game is going to be earth-shattering? It gets even worse when you consider that for many months towards the end of the year, it's nothing but multiplats which will be better on PS4. Rinse/repeat.

Still, Phil shows he has actual balls and ears, so I wouldn't rule out MEGATON news in November unless the NPDs really turn around dramatically. $299 with a game! That would blow people's actual minds.



sales2099 said:
LivingMetal said:
sales2099 said:
sub-zero-TM said:
Lol Megaton? really?

Soooooo you don't think addressing 4 cons in one day: price gap, unbundling kinect, gold paywall for apps, and games for gold for X1 counts as mega news?

Some people are just hard to please. If you ever get excited for something smaller by comparison, im totz calling you out


Maybe because some gamers were already please with this consumable item called a PlayStation4.  But please don't take my word for it.  I'm just going by the trend of the leading console sales and the competiton trying to catch up to it.  So in comparison, this "megaton" is at best relative.

Yawn. Playing the global sales card is every PS fans get-out-of-jail-free card in every debate. I can see it now. Sigh.....


When I mentioned "catch up," my context was more in reference to the Xbox One attempting to offer a similar console with the same price point as the PS4.  So what's recently a "Megaton" in regards to the Xbox One is old hash for the PS4.  And just because a person makes a positive Playstation/Negative Xbox commnent  doesn't make that person a PS fan.  Mario and Metroid rules.  Just is.

EDIT: Essentially, Microsoft has to "copy" Sony to stay competitive. 



Once they announce halo 2 hd with actual multiplayer I'm definitely getting One.



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The competition got real!!!! bring on E3!!!



How much is the PS4 in the US? Does this make the X1 the same price or cheaper than the PS4?