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Forums - Microsoft - Xbox ONE $399 (Kinectless) GOLD services confirmed Lots of info inside.

They need to announce voice commands coming to headsets soon, otherwise your losing features like xbox record that as there is no dedicated button. I think they will probably announce this at E3 when they go into more detail about it all. Its something they can easily put right and you then dont lose anything, as i dont think anyone was making camera exclusive software outside of Rare and even they probably arent now that rivals has shipped.

So strange not to cut price immediately, sales are gonna tank between now and E3, even more strange is they could of opened the show with this news and said on sale immediately.



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Shinobi-san said:

Some people would have bought X1 for titanfall, forza, Ryse etc. they might not necessarily have wanted the Kinect and wanted to pay the additional cost. But they didnt have a choice. And yes ofcourse they could have waited but that doesnt mean that some will be pissed.

But now they have the choice to sell their Kinect2-cameras, if they really don't like it.

Some buyers of the kinectless XBO will want to upgrade later, so the chances of finding a buyer for the camera should increase.

And when an early adopter sells his Kinect-camera, he don't have to worry that he needs it again for some minor task he hadn't thought of... firmware upgrades that demand a connected camera or similar shit.



Shinobi-san said:
NobleTeam360 said:
DarkWraith said:
"[A Kinect-less Xbox One] is not in our plans at all," he stressed.

"As we've said from the very beginning, we believe Kinect is an absolutely integral part of the Xbox One experience."

[Harvey Eagle, Xbox UK Marketing Chief]

flip flopping like a US politician these days. anyone who has confidence in this company is delusional to the extreme level of religious fundamentalists.

You could complain or you could 

 


You would need a Kinect for that

Buy the version that comes with Kinect then or buy it later it's your choice. xD



Zekkyou said:
kowenicki said:
Shinobi-san said:
kowenicki said:
Shortiloe said:
lawl, Launch-buyers are fucked and I guess very pissed, if that happens.


why?

I'm happy as a pig in shit and love my kinect enabled xbox.


You really dont see the reason why some early adopters would be pissed?

early adopters always get the finger... whats new?  it's what we sign up for.

PS4 early adopters didn't.. :p

When it comes to games, early adopters always get the finger, PS4 included. Driveclub and Watch Dogs delays didn't make it any better for the excited early adopters. 



kowenicki said:
Max King of the Wild said:
Machiavellian said:
Bail said:

 


Translation for y'all : "Starting 09/06 : PS4 remains the same "

EDIT : here's the link  

Sometimes tweets should be thought out more.  Saying the PS4 remains the same really isn't something to brag about.  It means the PS4 is not progressing or evolving but staying static while the competition is adding more value and incentives to the consumer.  That’s one of those arrogant tweets that made Sony look bad at the beginning of the PS3 era and does not sound good if Sony is smelling their success to much. 

This is the reason why I like it when one or the other company plays catch up.  If both MS and Sony were doing great, neither would have incentive to do better or compete better.  I like it more when MS is the one playing catch up.  MS definitely is not good when they are the lead because of their history.  Sony really isn’t better but they are better than MS. 

 

LOL! Why change a winning stragety? You are seriously trying to downplay the tweet too much. It doesn't mean it isn't evolving. It means it's given the gamers what they wanted from the begining #winning

Well we shall see.  That momentum based purely on good will won't last forver unless they start delivering.  Smart arse tweets and childish pranks by grown men becomes tiresome after a while.  It might start to look desperate too.

I think the consensus of the neutral gaming press is that right now the ONE has the better software line up and has the better experience.   Lol, even Francis thinks so... thats some turnaround.

Tell that to yourself
Sony has the by far better games - And Multiplats will always be better on the PS4.
The next big screamer will be WatchDogs shortly before the X1 gets its pricecut
And Sony will now even make bigger buzz around how much better their version is than they did currently

Saying something like this is comparable to this from Microsoft
"We have 80-plus million Xbox 360 users today who want an Xbox One,
No you don't Microsoft - I alone have 3 360s and so do most of the people have or purchased more than 1.
Stupid PR Talk and make them people believe lies all the time.




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Shinobi-san said:
NobleTeam360 said:

You could complain or you could 

You would need a Kinect for that

No, you can say that phrase even without a console, tv or electricity... as often as you want.



sales2099 said:
Porcupeth said:
sales2099 said:
 

lol, this ain't PS2/Xbox or Wii/360 graphics gaps. 


Yes it is. That's exactly what it is.

Sigh.....good day sir.

Just try to be as happy about this great news day as 4 cons (price, kinect bundle, app Gold paywall, and Games for Gold) have been swiftly addressed.

The gap is definitely comparable froma theoretical point of view. Not sure why you reacted with that post.

It just isnt as noticeable since they are both at a certain level, where diminishing returns kicks in.



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Arcturus said:
crissindahouse said:

this tweet pretty much tells how it is:

people rip on Nintendo for refusing to face reality and change course and rip on Microsoft for correcting their mistakes

That's a lazy tweet. Does he really think the people who rip on Nintendo for not changing are the EXACT same people who rip on Microsoft for correcting their mistakes?

lol yeah so true. Seems like a few posters here think its highly accurate summary of the situation



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Shinobi-san said:
DerNebel said:
Now the competition can really start.

I'm kinda inclined to search for all the people that said they'd never drop kinect.


I dont see the point in doing something like that. MS seemed pretty dedicated to Kinect. There was good reason to believe that they wouldnt have dropped Kinect.

And on the flip side of that, there was also good motivation as to why they should drop it.

I dont see either opinion as being unreasonable.

Because it's fun to point those things out to people, especially when they're really adamant about it. There is no malicious intent behind something like this (or at least not for me) it's just a fun part of forum posting, when someone makes a prediction like this, he should be aware that people might come back to call him out on it, when/if it turns out wrong and there's no harm in doing that (of course there are always points where things stop being funny)

Especially in this case I really don't see why anyone would be mad when he's being called out for being wrong, after all this is nothing but good news for the Xbox (even though I've seen people trying to spin this saying things like this would make the developer community mad, because it's going to split the userbase etc.)



The April NPD numbers must have been horrific for the X1.