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Forums - Sony Discussion - SONY results: 3.7m PS3+PS4, 0.7m PSV+PSP. $1.246bn loss FY. GAME $80m loss for year. Expects another $0.5bn loss to March 2015

kowenicki said:
Farsala said:
This is all guesswork but with 3.7m PS3+PS4 vs 1.2m XB1 and .8m X360. MS said they may slow down or stop XB1 production for awhile but even so the shipping gap is probably at least 2m. And PS3 sales are dropping and being replaced with PS4s in stock instead. Could be something as serious as:
3.2m PS4
.5m PS3

That leaves XB1 total shipped 5.1m, and PS4 at 7.4m+.

So you think the PS4 had approx 0.5m supply at end of March? 

I'd say 7.1m max shipped PS4 by end of March.

It seems incongruous to suggest the PS3 shipped just over half of  the 360 when supply of the 360 was higher last quarter and the PS3 is apparently sellling more.

7.1 million shipped as of the end of march and 7 million sold as of April 6th would certainly make sense considering all the reports of supply issues we were seeing at the time.



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I knew before clicking this would be a Kowen thread.



kowenicki said:

care to elaborate?

Not really, no. I was clear enough the first time.



If Sony's in such bad shape why has there cash position got better?

Cash and cash equivalents
December 31st 2013 - $8,088 billion
March 31st 2014 $10,160 billion

That's enough cash for 15 quarters of losses equal to this one.




So then for the last 6 months

Sony

11.5 million home consoles

of which

7-8 million PS4

4.5-3.5 million PS3


Microsoft

9.4 million home consoles

of which

5.1 million Xbox One's
4.3 million Xbox 360's




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kowenicki said:

Yaah and its weak.

I have been doing these quarterly threads here for years for all 3 companies.  Recently Ethomaz took this one over as he has an interest in Sony, Vinnie does the Nintendo one now.  But Etho is banned and up to two days ago nobody had started one.  So I did.

I assume you would prefer this thread never existed for some very, very odd (but obvious) reason?

You read too much in to it (for obvious reasons).

I simply thought, "I'd bet it's a kowen thread", clicked, and it was, so commented as such.



ouch i knew sony was doing bad but i had no idea it was this bad



kowenicki said:
kumagawa said:
If Sony's in such bad shape why has there cash position got better?

Cash and cash equivalents
December 31st 2013 - $8,088 billion
March 31st 2014 $10,160 billion

That's enough cash for 15 quarters of losses equal to this one.


Ahh, whats known here as the Nintendo defense.  Thats not how it works I'm afraid.


Eh, the big difference is that Nintendo has no real debt.



Kasz216 said:
kowenicki said:
kumagawa said:
If Sony's in such bad shape why has there cash position got better?

Cash and cash equivalents
December 31st 2013 - $8,088 billion
March 31st 2014 $10,160 billion

That's enough cash for 15 quarters of losses equal to this one.


Ahh, whats known here as the Nintendo defense.  Thats not how it works I'm afraid.


Eh, the big difference is that Nintendo has no real debt.

Nintendo also has nowhere to go from here unless they drastically start to invest in other industries.



kowenicki said:
kumagawa said:
If Sony's in such bad shape why has there cash position got better?

Cash and cash equivalents
December 31st 2013 - $8,088 billion
March 31st 2014 $10,160 billion

That's enough cash for 15 quarters of losses equal to this one.


Ahh, whats known here as the Nintendo defense.  Thats not how it works I'm afraid.

Can you explain, I'm a novice.