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Forums - Nintendo - Nintendo forecasts total Wii U sales will be 9.7 Million by March 31 2015 - My thoughts on this

Max King of the Wild said:
zorg1000 said:
Well they did go on to say its a conservative number and think its possible for it to sell more. They just dont want to miss another sales forcast.


There is a difference between being conservative and lowballing. Of course they can sell more but it will still be within the same area of their forecasts. Look at the Ps4. Sony expected 5m. They saw all the signs of a smash hit months before launch. Huge pre-orders and lots of buzz. They had record launch sales and sustained sales for months... yet they were only able to produce 40% more than expected. Nintendo is already 2months in the new year with still lower than expected sales. They aren't increasing production because there are no signs in needing to do so. They probably wont even increase it immediatly if MK8 shows more demand than expected because thats a good way of loosing lots of money if it proves to be temporary.

all i meant by lowball is that they feel its possible to surpass that number, i may have used the word incorrectly tho.



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Turkish said:
DevilRising said:
They're lowballing. It'll be over 10 million, probably on the way to 12 by mid-2015, thanks to Mario Kart, Smash Bros., and the by-then upcoming Zelda, likely a new Animal Crossing, etc.

They're lowballing on purpose so that it looks better when they surpass it.


They can't lowball to their investors. It isn't lowballing because the WIi U sold 2.72M units in 1 year with a pricecut, Donkey Kong,  Wii Fit U, Wii U Play and Mario 3D World. They're forecasting more than last year because of Smash bro and MK8, but they anticipate the impact will be rather small and thats where the 3.6M is coming from.


Perhaps you should listen to what you just said. Wii U had DK, Wii Fit, Wii Party, and Mario. A Mario game, by the way, while in spite of being awesome, many people were just not that enthusiastic for, because they felt it was too similar to 3D Land, and thus the hype was far less than it could have been, on account of many folks simply not considering 3D World to be the TRUE "next gen 3D Mario". So in other words, as has been stated many many many times before, Wii U, price cut or not, simply has NOT had the games to really sell it to the masses in droves. That is also to say nothing of the relative lack of serious ad media in NA.

And yes, they can/are "lowballing" their investors, at least in the sense that if they set their sales expectations low, and exceed them, it makes them come out smelling like roses. You act as if they're going to get in trouble for a twisting of honesty or something, when quite frankly, their OVER-optimistic sales forecast for last year was far too generous, and not being entirely honest, if you want to put it that way. So yeah, "lowballing" the expected figures is a far better approach. If they honestly didn't expect MK8 and SB to have that big of an impact, then why the hell would they even be bothering? They'd just do what so many of you have (hilariously, and erroneously) suggested, and pull a Sega, abandoning Wii U, and rushing out new hardware that would (obviously) magically change everything and do great.



StarOcean said:
ImmortalHelixFossil said:
I honestly believe that most people who want Mario kart 8 already has a WiiU. I'm afraid most of Nintendo IP's are wanted from "our generation". The new generation after "2000", is mostly interested in smart phones and tablet games.

@Bolded Pokemon is still very very popular. I know from experience. At my school Pokemon was still very much revelant, same at both of my younger sisters schools (middle and elementary) where kids still have Pokemon shirts, backpacks, play the games, etc. Mario's popularity has been going down and Zelda has always been pretty niche. 

Let's not go calling a franchise whose lowest selling new titles can pretty much be expected to sell 3-4 million units (let's not count Minish Cap... I don't really know what to think of sales there...) niche. There's a pretty big space to inhabit between "global phenomenon" and "niche". I mean, you've got Persona as an avatar and Star Ocean as a username, I think you know things get a lot more niche than Zelda! :p



They're setting the bar low to get detractors off their back while the numbers roll in during the year.

Who do they have to impress with the forecast anyway? Their stock price can't go much lower, and half of all gamers are expecting them to axe the system altogether.



They are being conservative, but more like they are being realistic. Iwata can't throw out a bullsh*t forecast this year because his leadership position is up for a vote of confidence from the shareholders in June.

If he made an overly optimistic projection again and say Mario Kart doesn't give a big boost, it could fuel anger from investors who on the fence on Iwata if he looked so wildly out of touch again. 

I almost suspect Nintendo may have been able to release Mario Kart a month or so earlier but opted for a late May launch so the shareholder meeting in June could not be swayed by a post-Mario Kart Wii U lull that would damage Iwata's chances with shareholders voting on him. 

If they launched in April or early May, investors would be able to see if Wii U sales dip back down after the initial few weeks of sales. 



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DevilRising said:
Turkish said:
DevilRising said:
They're lowballing. It'll be over 10 million, probably on the way to 12 by mid-2015, thanks to Mario Kart, Smash Bros., and the by-then upcoming Zelda, likely a new Animal Crossing, etc.

They're lowballing on purpose so that it looks better when they surpass it.


They can't lowball to their investors. It isn't lowballing because the WIi U sold 2.72M units in 1 year with a pricecut, Donkey Kong,  Wii Fit U, Wii U Play and Mario 3D World. They're forecasting more than last year because of Smash bro and MK8, but they anticipate the impact will be rather small and thats where the 3.6M is coming from.


Perhaps you should listen to what you just said. Wii U had DK, Wii Fit, Wii Party, and Mario. A Mario game, by the way, while in spite of being awesome, many people were just not that enthusiastic for, because they felt it was too similar to 3D Land, and thus the hype was far less than it could have been, on account of many folks simply not considering 3D World to be the TRUE "next gen 3D Mario". So in other words, as has been stated many many many times before, Wii U, price cut or not, simply has NOT had the games to really sell it to the masses in droves. That is also to say nothing of the relative lack of serious ad media in NA.

And yes, they can/are "lowballing" their investors, at least in the sense that if they set their sales expectations low, and exceed them, it makes them come out smelling like roses. You act as if they're going to get in trouble for a twisting of honesty or something, when quite frankly, their OVER-optimistic sales forecast for last year was far too generous, and not being entirely honest, if you want to put it that way. So yeah, "lowballing" the expected figures is a far better approach. If they honestly didn't expect MK8 and SB to have that big of an impact, then why the hell would they even be bothering? They'd just do what so many of you have (hilariously, and erroneously) suggested, and pull a Sega, abandoning Wii U, and rushing out new hardware that would (obviously) magically change everything and do great.


lol. Wii U had Wii Fit U, Wii Play U, NSMBU, all these games sold 30 million copies on Wii. MK8 will have similar results on WiiU, it will not change anything. Smash Bros is not as big a franchise as is Zelda. They both sold less than 10m on Wii. On top of that, if Smash Bros wont do good, your excuse will be: "it was available on 3DS months before it came to WiiU so people already bought it!".

They cant lowball, period, lol why would they even lowball? Wii U isnt gonna sell any better in the coming year and Nintendo is expecting this.

Games or not, Wii U just isnt gonna turn its fortunes, the problem lie deeper than its software problem. I cant believe there are people who expect 1 or 2 single games to turn the fate of Wii U around.