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Forums - Gaming - Why Destiny, Watch dogs, FFXV and The Last guardian will flop. [UPDATE]

This sounds much more like your opinion of these games than any sort of rational explanation for why they would "flop".

Watchdogs is already not a flop. This doesn't mean you have to like it, however.



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weaveworld said:
Dadrik said:
weaveworld said:
 

 


It also has my preference, to be honest. But if, in the end, we have a game worthy of the franchise with a more dynamic combat system that turns out to be great, I'm all in.

I agree. I just doubt the excellent storytelling part in a new action-oriented FF. It's been years since I played a game that did everything so well as the older FF's. Maybe it's just personal preference but excellent storytelling is apparently very hard in games. Of course combined with characters that are interesting and a music score that pops up in your mind at the strangest times. 


Exactly. I've been crossing my fingers for months now. I really hope FF XV will finally be the game we've been expecting since FF X (I liked XII a lot, but the story/music/characters weren't as great as VI, VII, IX or X).



Just because you have an opinion doesn't mean you are necessarily right.

S.T.A.G.E. said:
weaveworld said:
Xxain said:

Can i add to that:

"FFXV is going to be everything the past 3 FF games weren't, a true FF game with Type-0/KH mix combat."

A true FF with completely different combat style...?


Final Fantasy is more about the grand linear story and the epic battles rather than just the gameplay style. Every FInal Fantasy is supposed to be different. Every Final Fantasy is treated as its own game. Thats kind of why its called final fantasy, it was the last hope for Square way back when they were having financial troubles. No other franchise holds the torch more than that franchise because it represents Square as a company. The gameplay can change, but as long as it stays an RPG it will be fine. Its more about mixing up great gameplay with the epic, fantasical stories. Lets take the Last Story, for instance. It is called that because Sakaguchi-san (who made final fantasy) is still living off of glory of saving Squares collective ass with his creativity.  The gameplay was also changed up over there. Even he knows the gameplay needs to be changed for the better. If he had stayed with Square those would all have been ideas for the next Final Fantasy games instead of being Mist Walker titles.

So now you get to decide what FF is about? ;p

To me it's the whole package. And there have been tweaks since the first Final Fantasy but nothing major. I say keep on tweaking without losing how the games are played. Start a new IP if you want to get into action games.

It doesn't represent the Square we know anymore. The Square (soft) that was is gone. Long gone. 



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I don't believe you actually bought Watch Dogs after hating on it for all this time. Nobody buys a game for $60 if he doesn't find it appealing.



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Who told you I bought it ? I have some friends who work at video games store here in France, he lends me a lot of games. 

When they're priced over 30€ I only buy games I'm sure I will enjoy.



Sleepyprince said:

- Destiny : A fps again. From what I saw, there's no real differences between Destiny and Borderlands 2. It's pretty much the same concept except it is now in a lively kind of open world. Everyone and their mother speak about the RPG aspects of Destiny but if you all go this way, even black ops is a kind of RPG. You earn exp, you improve your weapon, you can customise your stuff and characters... A lot of shit can be labeled as RPG nowaday I don't think FPS could make it big on the next generation again. Titanfall was pretty much everything that call of duty and battlefield wasn't. It was next gen, fun, fast paced, entertaining and all, and still the game is somewhat a flop. Of course Destiny is technicaly beatiful, but artisticaly it's the kind of art direction that can push mainstream audiene away. As a gamer, and a curious one, I did not see a thing in Destiny that can appeal to me. To me, from everything I saw - except powers - I see no difference between Shadowfall and Destiny gameplay wise. 


Community, three two games to go. 

I guess that seals the deal about destiny not going to flop :P



Sleepyprince said:

Who told you I bought it ? I have some friends who work at video games store here in France, he lends me a lot of games. 

When they're priced over 30€ I only buy games I'm sure I will enjoy.



You said you bought it in your update.



This should be interesting.



Saying Final Fantasy is dead is a joke. FFXIV:ARR is the most successful MMO since WoW and Eve Online garnering close to 2 million players (which is actually gigantic for profits). SE is profiting nearly a billion $ a year if ARR stays big even if they flop other games.

So Final Fantasy isn't even close to dead, also JRPG's have been making a comeback so I am not sure what rock you are living under...

Western RPG's are actually the ones failing lately, only big name Open World Western RPG's have seen success.