Oh nice I remember adding that from the PSN store when it was on + and having not played Dishonored yet I mightn have to grab that offer.

Metal Gear Solid V's download size is listed as 25.1GB:

Smaller than MGS4!

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You should edit the thread title to "Rise of the Tomb Raider exclusive to PS4 in Holiday 2016"

lolz at the title, i can wait a year, better come with all the dlc or a discounted price

It won't. (I bet)

Love the title change

Is it safe to say "We effing told them so!" in here? Damn, just a day ago there were still certain people on this website vehemently claiming that there is never going to be RoTR on PS4, using obviously smoke and mirrors statements from Phil Spencer as proof positive that RoTR won't be on PS4. So frustrating and nothing you say with logic, or point out the cynical nature of PR practices around these sorts of things, gets through at all. "It's a deal like DR3 and Ryse, therefore no PS4." And those people won't learn from this. The next time PR spin comes along they will still drink the koolaid.

A warning to us all though. Always be more wary of the PR spin coming out in favour of your preferred console. Being self aware, so to speak, is more important than finding gullibilities in other people. Especially when you want to point out their gullibilities.

Schadenfruede is really not justified here, since pretty much everyone's been screwed over with the RoTR mess, possibly with the exception of PC gamers. But I can't help but feeling a rather prolonged in your face moment, just because some people were so determined to convince everyone of the permanent console exclusivity.

I will probably get RoTR next November. But I've also been saying I will get Bloodborne and The Witcher 3, and I haven't done that yet, and I want to play those 2 games (and Uncharted, and TLOU2, and Ratchet and Clank) more than I want to play RoTR. So maybe 2017 is when I'll get it. And maybe, like TR 2013, I will only get it when it comes to PSN+ because I have no real room for it otherwise; now wouldn't that be an irony?

The thing is that the deal is similar to that of DR3 and Ryse, not identical. I don't understand why so many people overlook the fact that "similar" and "identical" are not the same.

We've seen this coming since last Gamescom. Geoff Keighley tweeted that ROTR is a timed-exclusive and then, Aaron Greenberg tried to discredit him in an attempt to damage control. There were so many red flags that a PS4 version of ROTR was probable. The "Exclusive for holidays 2015" moniker, Geoff's tweet, Phil's admittance of the deal being "timed", the dissimilarities between the ROTR & SFV situations, Kagari's comments on GAF, the list goes on and on.

Precisely. People swallowed the Ryse and DR3 deflection koolaid hook, line and sinker and obstinately refused to see what was blindingly obvious about all the PR double-speak. And now they have been made to look like fools by the company they so strongly defend. Well being a passionate advocate of any company is foolish, which is why I shun anything Apple related, I just hate the cultishness that develops around companies, but this was extra foolish. It was so damned frustrating at the time trying to talk sense to those people.

Am I being unself-aware? Am I in a Sony cult without realising it? Shit, I hope not. I certainly feel like I wouldn't give Sony a second thought if they went tits up, as long as I can get my console gaming needs met by someone other than Microsoft or Apple. I would hate to have to follow Naughty Dog into the jaws of one of those beasts. Thankfully that is probably not on the cards in whatever years remain to me as an active gamer. I swear I only have a Sony phone because at the time it was the best value for money that was not either Apple or Samsung. And it is my first ever Sony phone. And I only made my wife get a Z3 because of PS4 remote play. I swear there are legit reasons for all my Sony purchases and there is no slavish loyalty to the Sony name. Goddamit!