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What did you think about Sony's Pre-TGS Conference?

It was nice 10 11.90%
 
Nothing that really caught my attention tbh 25 29.76%
 
It was awesome! 8 9.52%
 
Not Bad 7 8.33%
 
I didn't like it 11 13.10%
 
It was okay 10 11.90%
 
Needed more LoD! 4 4.76%
 
Decent 2 2.38%
 
Other 7 8.33%
 
Total:84
Samus Aran on 18 May 2015
Zekkyou said:
Samus Aran said:

Not really. I don't believe 80+ critics thinking independantly of each other cannot find a single flaw in a game.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eFhRFWSmFGg

Watch this review of TLOU, it goes over its many flaws and merits. It's probably the only decent review of TLOU in existence.

A game can have flaws and be given a 10. Most critics use it to represent something that's the best/among the best of what they've played. If 10 represented perfection, something we can't define without knowing the absolute technological and design peaks of gaming in the future, the whole scale becomes undefinable.

Regardless, i personally think 95 is a good numerical representation of TLOU (In the context of the scale normally used in gaming) ^^. Sames goes for UC2 and SMG1/2, three other games rated 95+. You don't have to agree, but disagreeing doesn't make them inherently overrated.

It's not just the scores though, the reviews themselves barely have any critique in them. I find it all very unprofessional and considering my academic background I can't take these critics serious. I've been trained to be critical of everything.

That's why I gave you that youtube review, he's the best critic on video games I came across, be sure to check him out!

But yeah, it's just my opinion, you don't have to agree.



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Zekkyou on 18 May 2015
Samus Aran said:

It's not just the scores though, the reviews themselves barely have any critique in them. I find it all very unprofessional and considering my academic background I can't take these critics serious. I've been trained to be critical of everything.

That's why I gave you that youtube review, he's the best critic on video games I came across, be sure to check him out!

But yeah, it's just my opinion, you don't have to agree.

I definitely agree that many reviewers need to go more in-depth than they currently do,  but if they insist on keeping them shorter i'd rather they focus on whatever they think is most relevant. In the case of the games i mentioned, that would be almost entirely the positives.

I'll be sure to check the video out though once i'm done losing in Hearthstone ^^



DerNebel on 18 May 2015
Samus Aran said:
DerNebel said:

1. How is it a remaster? It's definitely a lot more different from Red/Blue (which by that logic should btw. have their sales seperated as well, since the original games were actually Red/Green and Blue came later, you really chose a poor example there), than TLOU:R is from TLOU.

And TLOU is on 2 consoles that combined have about the same userbase as the PS1 had, so I don't see the problem.

2. By the 3rd game (the only one that has a metascore) ND really wasn't as unproven as you try to make them out to be.

It's painfully obvious that you have not played Pokémon red/blue and yellow.

Oh and you can't just add two userbases (PS3 and PS4) and say it equals the PS1. There's no 1:1 linear correlation between increasing sales of games and increase of userbase. That's why MP1 sold more on the GC than MP3 on the Wii... I hope you see how terrible that argument of yours is. Also, I'm sure there are a lot of people who bought TLOU: R despite already owning the original. The early adaptors of a certain console are the same people who buy the most games on average. Because they're hardcore fans.

Oh buddy, you have no idea how many of the Pokemon games I played (hint: It's all of them until the 3rd generation)

So if there's no correlation between the userbase and the sales, then what's the problem? TLOU sold more than any Crash game, the number of systems should naturally not matter since userbase is irrelevant. And there may well be double dippers for the TLOU out there, unfortunately you really have no way of proving how high the number of those is and how many are people that came from the 360 or another system or just didn't own TLOU on PS3 and wanted to try it out on PS4. So we're left at the beginning TLOU sold more than any Crash game, period.



ReimTime on 18 May 2015

Yes Naughty Dog games are cinematic. Its all right to dislike that. Just don't try to push your opinion in a PlayStation thread ffs obviously we will disagree. Not sure what you are trying to accomplish past that.



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KyleeStrutt on 18 May 2015

Seems like you guys had a party with Samus.



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Samus Aran on 18 May 2015
DerNebel said:
Samus Aran said:
DerNebel said:

1. How is it a remaster? It's definitely a lot more different from Red/Blue (which by that logic should btw. have their sales seperated as well, since the original games were actually Red/Green and Blue came later, you really chose a poor example there), than TLOU:R is from TLOU.

And TLOU is on 2 consoles that combined have about the same userbase as the PS1 had, so I don't see the problem.

2. By the 3rd game (the only one that has a metascore) ND really wasn't as unproven as you try to make them out to be.

It's painfully obvious that you have not played Pokémon red/blue and yellow.

Oh and you can't just add two userbases (PS3 and PS4) and say it equals the PS1. There's no 1:1 linear correlation between increasing sales of games and increase of userbase. That's why MP1 sold more on the GC than MP3 on the Wii... I hope you see how terrible that argument of yours is. Also, I'm sure there are a lot of people who bought TLOU: R despite already owning the original. The early adaptors of a certain console are the same people who buy the most games on average. Because they're hardcore fans.

Oh buddy, you have no idea how many of the Pokemon games I played (hint: It's all of them until the 3rd generation)

So if there's no correlation between the userbase and the sales, then what's the problem? TLOU sold more than any Crash game, the number of systems should naturally not matter since userbase is irrelevant. And there may well be double dippers for the TLOU out there, unfortunately you really have no way of proving how high the number of those is and how many are people that came from the 360 or another system or just didn't own TLOU on PS3 and wanted to try it out on PS4. So we're left at the beginning TLOU sold more than any Crash game, period.

Yet you don't know that Pokémon Yellow is the exact same game as Red/Blue with some very minor changes? I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

And the Crash trilogy sold more than any Uncharted game, 3 out of the 4 latest games they made. And TLOU didn't outsell Crash on the PS3. Period.

But if we're going to count remakes and remasters as the sales of one game...

For the record, I'm not saying they should make platformers again. That audience has likely left or outgrown that particular genre. But I do want to see them make something other than third person action shooters. If they made a Crash Bandicoot game for the PS4 it would likely not outsell Uncharted 4. But it would also be cheaper to develop and take less time.



DerNebel on 18 May 2015
Samus Aran said:
DerNebel said:

Oh buddy, you have no idea how many of the Pokemon games I played (hint: It's all of them until the 3rd generation)

So if there's no correlation between the userbase and the sales, then what's the problem? TLOU sold more than any Crash game, the number of systems should naturally not matter since userbase is irrelevant. And there may well be double dippers for the TLOU out there, unfortunately you really have no way of proving how high the number of those is and how many are people that came from the 360 or another system or just didn't own TLOU on PS3 and wanted to try it out on PS4. So we're left at the beginning TLOU sold more than any Crash game, period.

Yet you don't know that Pokémon Yellow is the exact same game as Red/Blue with some very minor changes? I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

And the Crash trilogy sold more than any Uncharted game, 3 out of the 4 latest games they made. And TLOU didn't outsell Crash on the PS3. Period.

But if we're going to count remakes and remasters as the sales of one game...

For the record, I'm not saying they should make platformers again. That audience has likely left or outgrown that particular genre. But I do want to see them make something other than third person action shooters. If they made a Crash Bandicoot game for the PS4 it would likely not outsell Uncharted 4. But it would also be cheaper to develop and take less time.

Lol, you can call bullshit all you want, but sorry it's the truth, even had all Pokemon in the Blue version and the Silver version, so yeah you should probably start accepting that I've played way more Nintendo games in my life than you think.

Again limiting TLOU to it's PS3 version is utterly pointless, you have literally brought forth not one valid argument against combining both platforms, your only argument was about the Pokemon franchise, for which the right way of counting the games could be argued all day anyway especially for the first generation. Why are red, blue and green counted as one? When it should according to your own logic be:

Red/Green counted seperately for Japan, then Blue counted seperately for Japan and then Red/Blue counted seperately for the west, don't base your argument on how something should be counted on something that's counted with as little logic put behind it as Pokemon is.



ReimTime on 18 May 2015

In case anyone has not seen:
FFXV will be getting an Episode Duscae version 2.0 in early June. It will include a number of improvements which were taken from consumer feedback.
http://www.siliconera.com/2015/05/18/final-fantasy-xv-episode-duscae-ver-2-0-coming-early-in-june/



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Samus Aran on 18 May 2015
DerNebel said:
Samus Aran said:
DerNebel said:

Oh buddy, you have no idea how many of the Pokemon games I played (hint: It's all of them until the 3rd generation)

So if there's no correlation between the userbase and the sales, then what's the problem? TLOU sold more than any Crash game, the number of systems should naturally not matter since userbase is irrelevant. And there may well be double dippers for the TLOU out there, unfortunately you really have no way of proving how high the number of those is and how many are people that came from the 360 or another system or just didn't own TLOU on PS3 and wanted to try it out on PS4. So we're left at the beginning TLOU sold more than any Crash game, period.

Yet you don't know that Pokémon Yellow is the exact same game as Red/Blue with some very minor changes? I'm going to have to call bullshit on that.

And the Crash trilogy sold more than any Uncharted game, 3 out of the 4 latest games they made. And TLOU didn't outsell Crash on the PS3. Period.

But if we're going to count remakes and remasters as the sales of one game...

For the record, I'm not saying they should make platformers again. That audience has likely left or outgrown that particular genre. But I do want to see them make something other than third person action shooters. If they made a Crash Bandicoot game for the PS4 it would likely not outsell Uncharted 4. But it would also be cheaper to develop and take less time.

Lol, you can call bullshit all you want, but sorry it's the truth, even had all Pokemon in the Blue version and the Silver version, so yeah you should probably start accepting that I've played way more Nintendo games in my life than you think.

Again limiting TLOU to it's PS3 version is utterly pointless, you have literally brought forth not one valid argument against combining both platforms, your only argument was about the Pokemon franchise, for which the right way of counting the games could be argued all day anyway especially for the first generation. Why are red, blue and green counted as one? When it should according to your own logic be:

Red/Green counted seperately for Japan, then Blue counted seperately for Japan and then Red/Blue counted seperately for the west, don't base your argument on how something should be counted on something that's counted with as little logic put behind it as Pokemon is.

I like how you keep ignoring the 3 Uncharted games. Had the Crash trilogy been re-released on the PS2 it would've outsold TLOU by a huge margin, that's why I'm not counting it.

I can use many other examples. Nobody counts OoT and OoT 3D as one game when talking about which Zelda game sold the best. Same for Wind Waker and Wind Waker HD.

Fact remains that Pokémon Yellow is 99% the same game as Pokémon Red/Blue btw. The only difference being that Pikachu is your starter that follows you around and can't evolve and the inclusion of Jessie and James. If you played it you should have known that.



Ali_16x on 18 May 2015
daredevil.shark said:
First impression of witcher 3. Looks good in PS4. But frame rate isnt perfect.


And that is why I cancelled my pre-order, I will wait a few months for patches. 



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