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ethomaz said:
adriane23 said:
My thread voicing my concerns from 3 months ago.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=178811&page=1

So far, SONY has been good at picking what comes on the console and I'm sure these are all quality games in their own right. But still....

This is called diversity.

What is bad for you can't be for others... you need to choose careful what you want to play.

For example I bought almost all Indies released util now and the only bad game was Basement Crawl.... all the others are above 6/10 with most solid 8/10 and some amazing 9/10 in my reviews scale... the best game on PS4 right now is a Indie (best than any on Xbone too).

It doesn't seem like you understand what I'm saying.

I'm not saying anything about diversity. Diversity is the cornerstone of the Playstation ecosystem. My concern is the inevitable influx of shovelware that we'll see on the PS4 that plagued the Wii and is currently plagueing Steam. So far, SONY has done a good job of keeping the garbage at bay. I even say this in my original post, so I don't understand why you brought up diversity and implied that I think that the current crop of indie games are trash. Re-read what I said, and you'll see that I never said that.



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Serious_frusting said:
Sony really do need to do some quality control on these inday games.

Out of that list only 1 maybe 2 games stop inerest me. Nothing here i would purchase though to be hones.


With that said just because i dont like them does not mean no one will. At this rate though I am beginng to consider many of these game shovelware.

Why would you consider them shovelware because they don't interest you?  Shovelware are usually games made by large corporations as a means to cash grab whatever they can with little feeling or thought put into it.  I feel like you can guarantee that almost any Indie title that gets to this point is not a soulless cash grab, or at the very least they are the far minority.  



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adriane23 said:

It doesn't seem like you understand what I'm saying.

I'm not saying anything about diversity. Diversity is the cornerstone of the Playstation ecosystem. My concern is the inevitable influx of shovelware that we'll see on the PS4 that plagued the Wii and is currently plagueing Steam. So far, SONY has done a good job of keeping the garbage at bay. I even say this in my original post, so I don't understand why you brought up diversity and implied that I think that the current crop of indie games are trash. Re-read what I said, and you'll see that I never said that.

Like I said before what is a shovelware to you is not for you neighbor, or me, or other VGC user or any other PS4 user.

From your examples I liked Street Fighter The Movie... I had a lot of fun with it... it is not even the worst Street Fight ever released.



ethomaz said:

adriane23 said:

It doesn't seem like you understand what I'm saying.

I'm not saying anything about diversity. Diversity is the cornerstone of the Playstation ecosystem. My concern is the inevitable influx of shovelware that we'll see on the PS4 that plagued the Wii and is currently plagueing Steam. So far, SONY has done a good job of keeping the garbage at bay. I even say this in my original post, so I don't understand why you brought up diversity and implied that I think that the current crop of indie games are trash. Re-read what I said, and you'll see that I never said that.

Like I said before what is a shovelware to you is not for you neighbor, or me, or other VGC user or any other PS4 user.

From your examples I liked Street Fighter The Movie... I had a lot of fun with it... it is not even the worst Street Fight ever released.

It is an absolute fact that that is the worst Street Fighter ever released. If you believe there is a worse Street Fighter game, that's fine. You're just wrong.

And E.T. (one of my other examples), is the epitome of shovelware. Just because someone likes the game for whatever reason doesn't mean that it is not shovelware.



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Sal.Paradise said:
torok said:
Sal.Paradise said:
I wondered who would grab nidhogg first. Next up, goat simulator.


Goat Simulator isn't that good. It's pretty funny and will give some laughs, but the world is pretty small and you can see every inch of it in less than an hour. 

Well, that hasn't stopped Microsoft http://www.gamespot.com/articles/first-person-soda-drinking-simulation-game-coming-to-xbox-one/1100-6418988/


Highly advanced fluid simulation for soda? Day one!!



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eFKac said:
HipHopGodd said:
kitler53 said:
HipHopGodd said:
So disappointed in where Sony's taking PS4. It's loaded with indys and maybe 2/10 are worth playing. I'm not saying everything has to be a blockbuster but why'd I pay big money for a console that's giving me games that feel like the only thing required to fun them is Flash Player?


sony has just as much AAA on their system as ms.   indie's just means i have more games to play, more choice, more diversity.

     AAA + indie >>  AAA

..so i really don't understand a word of what you just said. 

Man, for a guy who doesn't understand what I've posted your reply is strangely relevant to my posts content. Anway, I'm not worried about what MS is doing because I don't own an X1. What I'm talking about is how the focus seems to be on indy alone. Everyone wants to compare PS4s first 6 months to PS3s but in reality the PS3 early library demolishes PS4s. Seems like we're all going to have to fall in love with 2D scrollers again because that's all we're gonna get. 


Holy shit, your comments are so cringe worthy...if you don't want to bother with all the indie "trash" and need some "real" big games, here is a list from the top of my head of games with a 2014 release date for you to buy and enjoy, I'm sure every single one will be absolutely amazing, they are 60$ and from big publishers for a reason right? 

- mlb 14: the show
- bound by flame
- wolfenstein the new order
- watch dogs
- murdered soul suspect
- ea sports UFC
- planetside 2
- the elder scrolls online
- sniper elite V3
- the last of us remastered
- the evil within
- destiny
- disney infinity: marvel super heroes
- skylanders trap team
- the crew
- middle earth: shadow of mordor
- alien isolation
- driveclub
- dragon age inquisition
- sherlock holmes: crime & punishment
- assassins creed unity
- lords of the fallen
- batman arkham knight
- diablo 3 
- the order 1886
- the division
- call of duty advanced warfare
- dying light
- deep down
- moto gp 14

- all of the sports and racing annouals
- possible localisations

shitty line up, I hear you!


Why are you quoting "trash" and "real" as if I used those words? I'm not asking for all AAA titles. But the influx of indys is a bit too much IMO. It seems that there's 1 game being launched per month with almost 10 indy games between. Outside of Strider and Dean Nation I can't think of one that I'd say is worth the time to play.



torok said:
Sal.Paradise said:
torok said:
Sal.Paradise said:
I wondered who would grab nidhogg first. Next up, goat simulator.


Goat Simulator isn't that good. It's pretty funny and will give some laughs, but the world is pretty small and you can see every inch of it in less than an hour. 

Well, that hasn't stopped Microsoft http://www.gamespot.com/articles/first-person-soda-drinking-simulation-game-coming-to-xbox-one/1100-6418988/


Highly advanced fluid simulation for soda? Day one!!


It'll be popular becauase liking indy games is a new thing now. Like hating iPhones/Android, hating Call of Duty, and hating any musician who wins a Grammy.



adriane23 said:

It is an absolute fact that that is the worst Street Fighter ever released. If you believe there is a worse Street Fighter game, that's fine. You're just wrong.

And E.T. (one of my other examples), is the epitome of shovelware. Just because someone likes the game for whatever reason doesn't mean that it is not shovelware.

I never played ET so I can't give my opinion...

But I think Street Fighter EX or the first Street Fighter worst than Street Fighter The Movie

How can I be wrong?



HipHopGodd said:

It'll be popular becauase liking indy games is a new thing now. Like hating iPhones/Android, hating Call of Duty, and hating any musician who wins a Grammy.


I feel that some indie games are getting a free pass to good review score. Of course, we can say the same for the most hyped AAA games. With PS+ I started trying more indie titles and in the end things are similar to AAA games: few are really great, some are good, some are bad. I really enjoyed Guacamelee and Hotline Miami. Sine mora and Lone Survivor were decent while Thomas Was Alone simply looked a completely overrated and pretentious game (that pales compared to Ibb and Obb). These kind of games have less content, but usually are way cheaper so things pay off. I'm currently very satisfied with getting 1 or 2 AAA games and some indies on PS3/PSV.

PS4 lack of AAA is probably normal for a launch console. I got my Vita close to launch and things simply sucked. Less than a year latter and I already had more interesting titles avaiable that I could buy. PS4 was hurt by delays on Driveclub and Batman too. Anyway, it will probably take until Q3-Q4 2015 to have a good library avaiable, but that's what buying consoles at launch usually do: you get it first, but you will suffer with the early issues. That's probably why launch titles always have high sales and its sequels usually fall hard (Motorstorm, Resistance) when they have to deal with increased competition. 



ethomaz said:

adriane23 said:

It is an absolute fact that that is the worst Street Fighter ever released. If you believe there is a worse Street Fighter game, that's fine. You're just wrong.

And E.T. (one of my other examples), is the epitome of shovelware. Just because someone likes the game for whatever reason doesn't mean that it is not shovelware.

I never played ET so I can't give my opinion...

But I think Street Fighter EX or the first Street Fighter worst than Street Fighter The Movie

How can I be wrong?


Watch any gameplay video of E.T. and tell me that it is not shovelware. Even the sole developer of the game says it sucked, and that he had to rush the game out because they only gave him like two weeks to create it.

Now onto how you're wrong.

Street Fighter is old and dated, Street Fighter EX, is slow and awkward, but neither are fundamentally broken movie tie-ins where Blanka looks like this. Street Fighter: The Movie: The Game basically took Street Fighter II: Turbo code, messed with it to add "new"  features (Which broke the gameplay) and re-skinned all of the characters to look like a Mortal Kombat clone. So yes, you're wrong.



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