Now I understand the subnick under your avatar's lack of nose.

It shouldn't be.  The Financial Department has been the best for almost a decade now.

I can. And it's something much worse. It's the PS Vita.

And I say that not in a trolling-type way, but in the matter of the fact that the PS Vita is doing very little to nothing for Sony. Sure it may be doing alright in Japan, but it needs to do well worldwide for it to be worth Sony's time and effort in the financial sense of things. At this point, they're better off discontinuing the Vita and focusing solely on the PS4 -- which they seem to already be doing....

Except if you really do your research, MS doesn't make one red cent on Xbox.  Nearly all of the "profits" of the Xbox division are actually Skype and Android royalties. Sure MS's holiday was great - but that was owed to a turnaround of Surface and Windows 8. X1 pushes up revenues, but doesn't contribute profits to Microsoft when all is said and done.

When it comes to the future for PS4 and X1, both are standing are far more shaky ground than most would expect. In X1's case, MS has more profitable things it could do (though the new MS CEO seems pro-Xbox for now). In the case of Sony, the iceberg is melting and everyone's about to get wet...

So Xbox Live isn't profitable? lol oooook

How else is the Xbox One going to win the console war?  Can't win outright.  Sony has to go under in order for it to have a shot. 

Of course, some may think Sony is going to go under, but it won't happen.  They'll just continue with what they are doing, now.  Laying people off where need be (sucks for those who are layed off, but good for the rest of the employees who will lose their job if Sony does go under) and trimming the fat the company has accumulated over decades. If worst comes to worst, Japan will have their back.  Though, I don't think it will actually come to that.

TVs is still where they are losing the most, however.  If things don't turn around there within the next FY, I fully expect them to either drastically change their strategy (compete is the "cheap" market, instead of trying to be top of the line) or just drop the division altogether.  Kaz has actually been making changes, instead of just ignoring the problems, so I fully expect him to continue doing so.

Question for Kowen since you seem to follow this closely. How much better off would Sony be right now if they had cut TV the first year it made a loss? Or is that too hard to figure out. I don't follow this part of gaming.

Xbox live is only a part of the xbox division. Are you going to  ignore the fact that there has been serious discussion about selling the xbox division? (I don't remember if it was from an investor or a CEO). There's only so much money xboxlive can make on its own. If you factor all they money they spent for first party games, advertising, tv stuff, exclusives/timed exclusives, etc, it is likely that it is actually not doing well. Especially considering how many price cuts xb1 has had so far.

Also, do you think that responses such as "lol oooook" have a place in a serious discussion? I find them very disrespectful. If you seriously disagree with someone, explain why and if you think they're not worth yout time, simply ignore them.

Just my two cents. 

You also have to consider with so many jumping back on to PS this gen, and the slowing sales of the One, what's going to happen to that Live money once they stop supporting the servers for 360 games?  360 owners will have no reason to pay for Live, anymore.  So, that Live revenue is going to drop significantly this gen, both in subs AND game sales.

You said that the "profits" of the Xbox division are Skype and Android Royalties. Xbox Live Gold subscriptions are also a part of that. There was no serious discussion of selling Xbox, there was the guy who people thought was going to be MS new CEO saying that he would heavily consider selling off the devices and bing division. He is not the CEO. 

If you payed attention to the Quarterly Earnings Kowen posted you would see that MS does "make one red cent on Xbox"