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jlmurph2 on 01 May 2014
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naruball said:
jlmurph2 said:
fleischr said:


Except if you really do your research, MS doesn't make one red cent on Xbox.  Nearly all of the "profits" of the Xbox division are actually Skype and Android royalties. Sure MS's holiday was great - but that was owed to a turnaround of Surface and Windows 8. X1 pushes up revenues, but doesn't contribute profits to Microsoft when all is said and done.

When it comes to the future for PS4 and X1, both are standing are far more shaky ground than most would expect. In X1's case, MS has more profitable things it could do (though the new MS CEO seems pro-Xbox for now). In the case of Sony, the iceberg is melting and everyone's about to get wet...

So Xbox Live isn't profitable? lol oooook

Xbox live is only a part of the xbox division. Are you going to  ignore the fact that there has been serious discussion about selling the xbox division? (I don't remember if it was from an investor or a CEO). There's only so much money xboxlive can make on its own. If you factor all they money they spent for first party games, advertising, tv stuff, exclusives/timed exclusives, etc, it is likely that it is actually not doing well. Especially considering how many price cuts xb1 has had so far.

Also, do you think that responses such as "lol oooook" have a place in a serious discussion? I find them very disrespectful. If you seriously disagree with someone, explain why and if you think they're not worth yout time, simply ignore them.

Just my two cents. 


You said that the "profits" of the Xbox division are Skype and Android Royalties. Xbox Live Gold subscriptions are also a part of that. There was no serious discussion of selling Xbox, there was the guy who people thought was going to be MS new CEO saying that he would heavily consider selling off the devices and bing division. He is not the CEO. 

If you payed attention to the Quarterly Earnings Kowen posted you would see that MS does "make one red cent on Xbox"