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naruball said:
jlmurph2 said:
fleischr said:


Except if you really do your research, MS doesn't make one red cent on Xbox.  Nearly all of the "profits" of the Xbox division are actually Skype and Android royalties. Sure MS's holiday was great - but that was owed to a turnaround of Surface and Windows 8. X1 pushes up revenues, but doesn't contribute profits to Microsoft when all is said and done.

When it comes to the future for PS4 and X1, both are standing are far more shaky ground than most would expect. In X1's case, MS has more profitable things it could do (though the new MS CEO seems pro-Xbox for now). In the case of Sony, the iceberg is melting and everyone's about to get wet...

So Xbox Live isn't profitable? lol oooook

Xbox live is only a part of the xbox division. Are you going to  ignore the fact that there has been serious discussion about selling the xbox division? (I don't remember if it was from an investor or a CEO). There's only so much money xboxlive can make on its own. If you factor all they money they spent for first party games, advertising, tv stuff, exclusives/timed exclusives, etc, it is likely that it is actually not doing well. Especially considering how many price cuts xb1 has had so far.

Also, do you think that responses such as "lol oooook" have a place in a serious discussion? I find them very disrespectful. If you seriously disagree with someone, explain why and if you think they're not worth yout time, simply ignore them.

Just my two cents. 

You also have to consider with so many jumping back on to PS this gen, and the slowing sales of the One, what's going to happen to that Live money once they stop supporting the servers for 360 games?  360 owners will have no reason to pay for Live, anymore.  So, that Live revenue is going to drop significantly this gen, both in subs AND game sales.