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Did you expect the Wii U to flop beforehand?

Yes 169 35.21%
 
No, I thought it would sell like crazy 65 13.54%
 
No, I thought it would sell average-ish 243 50.63%
 
Total:477
Raven on 20 April 2014
JGarret said:
ToraTiger said:
Not even if Nintendo drops an atom bomb on Sony and Microsoft's conference, it won't save the Wii U from selling poorly. Honestly, I think there is two things Nintendo could do to save the Wii U.

1. Abandon the Wii U, and make a new console, comparable to XBOXONE specs. Barely above 360 graphics aren't helping the Wii U.

2. Plead to the third parties to fill there console with ports. Hell, if Third parties didn't hate nintendo so much the Wii U would be in a much better place.


Isn´t that..contradictory? :p

If you love something, let it go :P

OT: I expected it to be mediocre in comparision to the Wii because its initial reveal left people pretty confused. It didn't have the frenzy of the Wii and it was priced higher than any Nintendo console before it, so I figured the console would have a tougher time selling. I definitely didn't expect it to do this badly though, I figured GameCube sales momentum would be the absolute "no chance in hell" bottom for the Wii U.



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Ganoncrotch on 20 April 2014
prayformojo said:
I said it would be another Gamecube.


But it doesn't even have a handle!



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FarleyMcFirefly on 21 April 2014
chocoloco said:

Yes, I used to say it would not be a hit. I just never thought the sales would be this abysmal. I could hardly be more pleased. The sooner Ninty goes third party only the better for all gamers.

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Ok hater.

They aren't going anywhere anytime soon, so don't expect them to.
Without their hardware they will not have as much freedom for creativity in their games.



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oniyide on 21 April 2014
Mythmaker1 said:
oniyide said:

that could be true but that doesnt explain why PS4 and One did SO much better than WIi U in comparison and they were a year late to the next gen party. Shouldnt people have been clamoring for a new Wii sysyem?


The PS4 and XBO are very different systems, with very different audiences. Nintendo primarily appeals to a niche; a great, big niche, but a niche still. The other systems, though, appeal to a more mainstream gaming market.

The Wii was something of an anomaly, appealing to the same Niche as previous systems, but also striking into a new created mainstream, non-traditional gaming market. The problem is, Nintendo got outpaced and ultimately left behind in that market because the dynamic is very different from the gaming market


so ninty is relegated to niche status unless they can pull another WIi? that sucks



Mythmaker1 on 21 April 2014
oniyide said:
Mythmaker1 said:
oniyide said:

that could be true but that doesnt explain why PS4 and One did SO much better than WIi U in comparison and they were a year late to the next gen party. Shouldnt people have been clamoring for a new Wii sysyem?


The PS4 and XBO are very different systems, with very different audiences. Nintendo primarily appeals to a niche; a great, big niche, but a niche still. The other systems, though, appeal to a more mainstream gaming market.

The Wii was something of an anomaly, appealing to the same Niche as previous systems, but also striking into a new created mainstream, non-traditional gaming market. The problem is, Nintendo got outpaced and ultimately left behind in that market because the dynamic is very different from the gaming market


so ninty is relegated to niche status unless they can pull another WIi? that sucks


They squeezed themselves into that particular pigeonhole all on their own, and they could pull themselves out if they wanted to. They won't, of course, but they could.



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oniyide on 21 April 2014
Arius Dion said:

I did. After E3 2011 I felt a feeling of 'what the fuck?' I felt like Nintendo was going backwards from the Wii. And so, the market performance has also gone backwards from the Wii.

After the putrid performance of the GCN, Iwata, Miyamoto, all agreed that controllers had become to cumbersome and complex and were alienating every one besides dedicated gamers. The Wii was the response. So after the thing breaks records, they decide to make a console with a controller more complex than GCN? That makes sense? They even decided to create sequels and remakes of Gamecube games! Why would any one be surprised at Wii U's abysmal performance?

I just hope Nintendo learns the lessons it needs to in order to create a successful home console next gen. Because this gen is a wrap for them.


what was th alternative though? just make a more powerful Wii? Sure that would have done better, but not by much. IMHO the people who ran to get Wii didnt really care about HW power in the first place.



brighat on 21 April 2014

Despite the tablet controller, the lack of power inside and the lack of a real hard drive (again) I thought people would still buy this console but at a slower pace than the Wii. Many people owned a Wii and I expected some of those people to buy the new console. Nintendo has those franchises that everybody loved like Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Brothers and people were going to buy the console in anticipation for their eventual releases. To see the PS4 completely outsell it so quickly is shocking.

I really want a Wii U but it's just not a good investment at this time. Outside of the Nintendo games, you're better off with a PC, PS3 or 360 for the multi-platform games if you're not ready to buy a PS4 or Xbox One just yet.



oniyide on 21 April 2014
Nem said:
oniyide said:
Nem said:
To be honest... i didnt. My opinion changed when i saw the atitude 3rd parties were having towards it and how they undermined the Wii U in terms of new engines.
At that point, it was obvious they werent gonna let it do well regardless. The system of PS+Xbox is just too profitable to let go after last gen. The only thing that can replace it is a return to PS domination like the PS2 did.


i got to disagree. Its not like 3rd party were throwing new engines on WIi either, but that system still managed to do well. Wii U got great 3rd party support at the very beginning, and look at the sales. No wonder they shunned it. 


You mean shovelware support. The obvious difference is that the Wii was a casual system and the Wii u isnt.

As for support at the beggining, it didnt last 2 months. In february Ubi was already delaying Rayman and porting it. The only support to talk about was zombieU.

come on it wasnt JUST shovelware, it got some core games too. NFS, Star Wars. RE4, Godfather, Tomb Raider, etc. Now where those games great compared to the HD versions or games. Hell no...yeah i think i see your point. In the end you are right. So casuals did push the WIi to sucess. Fair enough. Dont mean to be an ass, there are still some who swear that the Wii wasnt a casual system.

Thats why i said beginning. And there were plenty of ports of other games. Sure you could say they did as well as expected but that would be wrong considering how well the PS4/one games are doing and they are pretty much in the same boat.



oniyide on 21 April 2014
brighat said:
Despite the tablet controller, the lack of power inside and the lack of a real hard drive (again) I thought people would still buy this console but at a slower pace than the Wii. Many people owned a Wii and I expected some of those people to buy the new console. Nintendo has those franchises that everybody loved like Super Mario Galaxy and Smash Brothers and people were going to buy the console in anticipation for their eventual releases. To see the PS4 completely outsell it so quickly is shocking.

I really want a Wii U but it's just not a good investment at this time. Outside of the Nintendo games, you're better off with a PC, PS3 or 360 for the multi-platform games if you're not ready to buy a PS4 or Xbox One just yet.

TBH, i dont think as much people love these Ninty series as much as we want to believe, otherwise the system would be doing much better. Hell N64 and GC would have done much better.



Fifaguy360 on 21 April 2014

Yes. Nintendo should go third party ASAP.