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Just look at how it works for my old one (again, what I did yesterday on me was flawed)

ItemPredictionMATHActualAccuracy
Super Smash Bros Brawl (Wii)410,000410/842*100=48.69%842,53648.66%
Devil May Cry 4 (PS3)102,000102/208*100= 49.03%208,83748.84%
Wii Fit (Wii)102,00070*1.45=101.5K70,59455.51%
Disgaea 3 (PS3)36,97437/58*100=63.74%58,01363.73%
Devil May Cry 4 (X360)33,33333/43*100=76.7%42,91777.67%
Wii Sports (Wii)35,33323*1.5= 34.5K23,70250.93%
Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Games (DS)55,00034*1.6=54.434,43140.26%
Mario Party DS (DS)33,33420*1,64=32.8K20,39736.57%
Wii Play (Wii)25,40011.670*2=23340
25400>23340 so 0%
11,6700%
Monster Hunter Freedom 2nd (PSP)18,70017*1,09=18.53K17,18891.2%
113,92597*1,17=113.4997,72383.42%
103,92569*1.5=103.569,51150.49%
33,33333/39*100=84.6%39,67684.01%
63,00063/70*100=90%69,65590.45%
3,8383.8/6.1*100=62.29%6,10862.84%

 

 

I'm within 1 % every single time. Are you telling me that is too far off? This isn't 100 % correct, but it has a smaller accuracy fail than the weekly.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

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@Oyvoyvoyv: You simply don't get it. You are using wrong formula. The accuracy that is shown in the table you posted have nothing to do with right formula and is not used to calculate earnings.
I showed you that you are off with CS around 60%. Is it to small for you?



No, because I think YOU are wrong. MY formula appears to be working on all the things in the 1st prediction league.

Judging by your method, what would Wii Play then be at last week? According to mine: 0%. Correct: 0%

Do your way, if it is something else than 0% your hypothesis has been weakened.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

@Oyvoyvoyv: I think that I should simply assume that you don't understand English and don't know what I am saying. I will try last time.

MY formula appears to be working on all the things in the 1st prediction league.

No, it doesn't. You think it works but it doesn't. Numbers that you are looking at in 1st prediction round have nothing to do with real numbers used in calculation.

Judging by your method, what would Wii Play then be at last week? According to mine: 0%. Correct: 0%

WiiPlay didn't have 0% accuracy. 0% is accuracy of "average prediction". This parameter is shown on prediction rounds' page but has nothing to do with calculating earnings. Is it imposible to understand for you? How old are you?

Do your way, if it is something else than 0% your hypothesis has been weakened.

It is not 0% and I have stated it numerous time. I've even stated that there will be no situations when a bet gets 0% accuracy (It is theoreticly possible but so unprobably that it won't happen ever).

ioi said in respond to people that though the way you do (it includes me):
The average accuracy is the average of all the individual accuracies, not the accuracy of the total of all estimates.

To use an example:

3 bets. One says 70k, one says 100k, one says 130k. The real number is 100k

The average accuracy isn't 100%. It isn't 70+100+130 / 3*100.

The average accuracy is (70%+100%+70%)/3 so 80%.

This means that players 1 and 3 get 7/8ths of their bet back and player 2 gets 1.25 times his bet back.


Check this thread if you still don't understand, the way to calculate winning are stated there by ioi (however they will be probably changed):
http://www.vgchartz.com/forum/thread.php?start=50&id=17796



This is from the first Japan predictions.

 

average
prediction

actualaverage
accuracy
104,576 97,723 92.99%
93,924 69,511 64.88%
41,080 39,676 96.46%
52,980 69,655 76.06%
7,617 6,108 75.29%

 

  my
prediction
  actual my
accuracy
115,000vg$ 5 97,723 82.32%
95,000vg$ 5 69,511 63.33%
45,000vg$ 5 39,676 86.58%
65,000vg$ 5 69,655 93.32%
6,500vg$ 5 6,108 93.58%

All you need to know is if you had a better accuracy than the average then you made a profit for that game/console

so for PSP and 360 I made a nice profit, but for DS is lost a bit, and failed on both Wii and PS3.
I think ioi is now implementing a multiplier of 1.1 or something, which means you can in fact be slightly less accurate than average and still make money, so I would have been profitable on the DS too (though not much)

Edit: ignore the italics because I was using the accuracy of the average prediction, instead of the average accuracy 

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If you want to work out the accuracy before the tables are updated simply get the difference between your prediction (or the average prediction) and the actual numbe, take it away from the actual, then divide by the actual and multiply by 100.

So for the Wii:
115,000 - 97,723 = 17,277

97,723 - 17,277 = 80,466

80,446/97,723 = 0.8232043 *100 = 82.32 (2.d.p)



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---The average accuracy is the average of all the individual accuracies, not the accuracy of the total of all estimates.---

ah right I forgot that, so the average accuracy is not what I said.



Ahh, why didn't you just link to that earlier? He explained it totally understandable.





http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS

TWRoO said:

This is from the first Japan predictions.

 

average
prediction

actualaverage
accuracy
104,576 97,723 92.99%
93,924 69,511 64.88%
41,080 39,676 96.46%
52,980 69,655 76.06%
7,617 6,108 75.29%

 

 


I think our confusion came from these numbers: why show us the accuracy of the average prediction, which may be way too high (PS3) or way too low (Wii Play) just by chance?

I've got it now, the number used for our earnings is in fact the REAL average accuracy (the sum of all the accuracies divided by the number of players), which will give half the players a winning bet, and the other half a loosing bet... which makes sense...

That's the number we should see written in that column, everything would be much more easier to understand then...

 



 

"A beautiful drawing in 480i will stay beautiful forever...

and an ugly drawing in 1080p will stay ugly forever..."

Good point Soul, if that was what was there, we could use the way I was using to do it.



http://www.vgchartz.com/games/userreviewdisp.php?id=261

That is VGChartz LONGEST review. And it's NOT Cute Kitten DS